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Former manager questions Marlins' moves

Posted on: December 21, 2011 2:56 pm
Edwin Rodriguez

By C. Trent Rosecrans

Even before the Marlins signed Jose Reyes, the questions about Hanley Ramirez's willingness to move to third base were raised. And since Miami signed Reyes, those questions have remained unanswered.

There's been speculation, of course, but there's only been cryptic Twitter responses from Ramirez himself.

At this month's winter meetings in Dallas, Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen did his best to put aside the rumblings that Ramirez would refuse to move from shortstop and create a problem -- "I only care about what Hanley says on Feb. 20, when we start spring training," Guillen said earlier this month. "I mean, from now on, people can say whatever."

One of the people saying "whatever" is former Marlins manager Edwin Rodriguez, who spoke to MLB Network Radio on Wednesday about Ramirez and third base.

"I think it's going to be [a] very interesting situation to say the least," Rodriguez told Jim Memolo and Todd Hollandsworth (via the Sun Sentinel). "Knowing Hanley, he's a very proud player. It's going to be very hard for him to move out of shortstop. He's a big league shortstop. He's an All-Star shortstop. In my opinion I think they are going to have a tough time trying to convince him to move to third base. Even if he does that, move to third base, beginning of the season, I think it's going to be very interesting to watch how everything develops, how Reyes takes the front pages and how the people start talking about the All-Star shortstop Jose Reyes. It will be very interesting to see how Hanley will handle all that."

Rodriguez, also said he thought it was a mistake to sign Reyes instead of using that money to increase the offer to Albert Pujols.

That said, Rodriguez, who will manage in the Indians' minor-league system next year, said he believed the Marlins were approaching Ramirez's move the right way and if Ramirez buys in, it would be a successful move.

Ramirez backed Rodriguez before the Marlins replaced him with Jack McKeon.

Ramirez will be 28 on Friday, which is the same age Alex Rodriguez was when he traded from Texas to the Yankees. As good as Ramirez is, he's not as good as Rodriguez or as good defensively as Reyes. At some point, you'd hope he'd just set aside his pride and play the position that gives his team the best chance to win. With Reyes on board, that's third base.

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Since: Dec 4, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2011 12:15 am

Former manager questions Marlins' moves

Detroit would love to take him off your hands and move Peralta to 3b. Can you make it happen?

Since: Mar 28, 2011
Posted on: December 21, 2011 11:05 pm

Former manager questions Marlins' moves

I don't agree with him being selfish if doesn't move to 3rd, think about it, he is the best SS in the majors possibly only Tulowitsky is better, if he moves to third he will join many who have similar numbers, he will be still one of the better third baseman but still a bigger company he will be with and demand for thirdbaseman is a lot less that elite shortstop, meaning it will cost him an arm and leg to move there comes contract time, me and you could care less because we didn't put in the time he did, so that selfish crap please leave it alone, he developeded a skill to be best of the best, I would agree about selfish if Marlins developed another SS to be better than Ramirez but to bring some one from outside and I am willing to bet if there was a draft tommorow and had to choose a SS everyone would choose Ramirez or Tulo not Reyes, Reyes would be probably 4th -5th SS taken, not even third.

Since: Jul 24, 2007
Posted on: December 21, 2011 9:41 pm

Former manager questions Marlins' moves

A-Rod had no problem moving to 3rd since Mr. Jeter was Mr. Yankee. Handley needs to look at what's in front of him, not what position he's been playing in the past. Reyes........hands down better positioned SS. Take it like a man Handley.

Since: Sep 17, 2008
Posted on: December 21, 2011 5:13 pm

Former manager questions Marlins' moves

this idea that if a player doesn't move his position he isn't being a team player... that's BS.  these are professional athletes who have developed a skill set and affinity to a posiiton.  why should hanley move?  he's the marlins' SS.  the markins should have asked reyes to move.  the yankees didn't ask jeter to move even though a-rod was the better offensive and defensive SS at the time, they told a-rod the deal would only be considered if he would move to 3B.  a-rod wanted to be a yankee so he did.

don't make it out that if hanley doesn't want to move he's being selfish.  playing SS is his job and his professional identity.  if they intended to move hanley then they shouldn't have signed him to a 6-year contract or at least should have told him that a move from SS was on the table before he signed a deal with them.  


Since: Dec 13, 2011
Posted on: December 21, 2011 3:25 pm

Former manager questions Marlins' moves

The Marlins shouldn't have signed Reyes at ALL  , the man is always injured and will be soon enough and Burehle ,  he is at the end of his career and needed to go to the national league to prolong it he has amybe 1 or 2 good years left if lucky

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 21, 2011 3:16 pm

Former manager questions Marlins' moves

Don't sign Reyes and increase the offer to Pujols? See this is why Edwin Rodriguez is no longer a manager. Your team loses about 80% of their games over a 2 month stretch going from 1.5 games out to dead last and worse in the National Leagu and now he suggests that they should have increased the offer to Pujols instead of signing Reyes?

That increased offer would have eliminated the Reyes and Burhle signing. Pujols is dam great player, but in 10 years he won't be worth 9/10ths of his yearly salary at the end of that contract, because of his age unless he pulls a Barry and hooks up with Greg Anderson and takes special vitamins from BALCO.

If Ramirez don't want to play 3B he can go home. He probably won't even beat out Matt Dominguez for thirdbase anyway if he plays as lousy as he did the entire 2011 season and final couple months of 2010.

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