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Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

Posted on: January 2, 2012 2:56 pm
Edited on: January 2, 2012 3:02 pm
 
By Matt Snyder

Considering he's by far the biggest free agent left unsigned, Prince Fielder's name has been -- and will continue to be -- mentioned all over the place in rumors. The latest comes courtesy of Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. He reports that an "MLB official" says "word is spreading in the industry" that the Nationals are the favorite to land Fielder.

CBSSports.com's own Jon Heyman had previously reported that a Nationals player believes they are "shooting for" Fielder. And Monday, in response to the Haudricourt report, Amanda Comak of the Washington Times brings us the following: "According to team sources, the party line remains the same: Unless the price -- specifically in years -- drops, the Nationals are unlikely to be that landing spot."

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So what to believe?

Well, I'd say all of it. Here's why: The Nationals probably do want the price to drop, but are also interested in signing him if and when the price becomes right. Unless the Cubs or Rangers come out and blow away Prince and his agent, Scott Boras, what club is left to outbid the deep-pocketed Nationals (remember, they have the richest owner in baseball)? The Mariners or Orioles? Please. The Blue Jays? Maybe. If Fielder wants to go to the AL East and north of the border. Or he could join one of the most promising up-and-coming teams in baseball while staying in the NL.

So it seems as though the feeling that the Nationals will end up with Prince Fielder is very logical, and that's why they are continually speculated to be the frontrunner, even if management is telling all the local beat writers they aren't in on him. Just because they reportedly haven't offered him anything yet doesn't mean they won't.

Fielder, 27, hit .299/.415/.566 with 38 home runs, 120 RBI and finished third in MVP voting last season. While many question his long-term durability due to him being rather large, he's played an average of 160 games per season since being up full-time. He hasn't played less than 157 in a season and appeared in all 162 last year.

If the Nationals did land Prince, watch out. He would join Ryan Zimmerman, Danny Espinosa, Wilson Ramos, Jayson Werth and Michael Morse on offense, while they all waited on big-time prospects Anthony Rendon and Bryce Harper to join the party. Stephen Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez and Jordan Zimmermann anchor the rotation while Drew Storen and Tyler Clippard are the back-end of the bullpen. That's a lot of youth and talent.

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Comments

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 7:16 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

Lumpoco, you continue to be one of the most clueless posters on CBS.

Steve Karsay?  That's your example?  How about this list of guys who were as good (if not better) after Tommy John surgery:

Chris Carpenter (surgery in 2007)
Josh Johnson (2007)
John Smoltz (2000)
Joakim Soria (2005)
Tim Hudson (2008)


As for your claim of "overptiching" Strasburg, maybe you should look at his stats:


2008 (college) - 98.3 IP plus the Olympics
2009 (college) - 109 IP
2010 (minors & Nats) - 123 IP


Yep, what a mishandling of Strasburg.  I guess you think they should have limited him to about 50 innings in 2010.



Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: January 2, 2012 7:04 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

Lumpoco: With all due respect, you said two things that aren't even close to being true.

1. The Nationals did not "rush" Strasburg back. Dr. James Andrews, the most respected surgeon in the world, cleared Strasburg to pitch. In fact, they went far slower in bringing him back than they had to, for obvious reasons. Unless you examined Strasburg and are smarter than Dr. Andrews, you can't possibly say the Nats rushed him back.

2. "most pitchers who sustain his type of injury never ever make it back to the level they once were before the injury"

The following pitchers had Tommy John surgery and came back as good or better than before:

Tommy John, John Axford, A.J. Burnett, Chris Carpenter, Tim Hudson, Scott Feldman, Josh Johnson (injury this season was unrelated), Jamie Moyer, Kenny Rogers, John Smoltz, Billy Wagner, Brian Wilson, CJ Wilson, Jordan Zimmermann (who the Nats babied last year in his return) and Ryan Vogelsong.

Thanks!

- Matt



Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 6:39 pm
 

Two Years? Try April.




Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: January 2, 2012 6:35 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

With the future of Stephen Strasburg in doubt (he is expected to miss 18 months and most pitchers who sustain his type of injury never ever make it back to the level they once were before the injury. Steve Karsay is one of the guys that come to mind. No worries. Karsay went on to have a very admirable albeit mediocre career with several teams. He just was never the fastball throwing-striking out the side talent that he once was. Obviously, many people/fools have said "yeah...but with today's modern medicine...anything is possible and Strasburg wil come back better and stronger than ever? How is that possible? Even when they put Humpty Dumpty back together again...he was never the same. No, Strasburg will consider his surgery a success if his arm does not fall off within 6 months...nevermind about getting back to the level that he once was. The Nationals made a grave mistake by overpitching Strasburg which led to his first injuries. They compounded that mistake by rushing him back to the rotation. I would have thought that MLB teams would have learned from the Twins regarding how they handled Francisco Liriano. At one time he was scary good. So good in fact that many fools kept saying how the Twins fleeced the Giants and how dumb the Giants were to give him up for A.J. "I'm not really a psycho, but I want to be" Pierzynski.. Well, the thing is Liriano and Joe Nathan were injury-proned before they were traded to the Twins. The move to the pen reimagined Nathan's career (thanks to Nathan's friends/cooaches). Is Liriano even in the majors now? No, you cannot use google to find that out.



Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 6:22 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

Boras only needs one sucker to cave and he'll get 8 years at $25 per for Fielder. I would sure love to see that not happen and shut Boras up for a change, but I've long lost confidence in GM's playing chicken with this guy.



Since: Apr 28, 2007
Posted on: January 2, 2012 6:22 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

The Prince to D.C. would be good for baseball. Whatever fans are left in Baltimore will soon be driving to D.C. for baseball. In two years these guys could be a power house.



Since: Jun 21, 2007
Posted on: January 2, 2012 5:08 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

The Nats have stated that Morse is moving to the outfield. There is no way he rides the pine.



Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: January 2, 2012 3:48 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

As a Cubs fan I wish the Nationals well.  Fielder simply does not have the career stats to pay him for more than 4-5 years on a contract.  And he's not worth $20 million per by any stretch.  He may be worth $10-15 million per but Boras has already created such high expectations that he will never eat his pride and sign.  At this point, Fielder's biggest problem is his agent.  Thankfully, the Cubs have never given Boras much ear and seem like they're sticking with their plan, which means they won't sign Fielder unless he comes at the right price.  I would love to see all MLB teams black ball Boras clients just to teach Boras a lesson.  Boras is exactly what's wrong with baseball and baseball players who think, or have been told, they're worth more than they are.  I'm sure A Rod would agree with that statement.  



Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: January 2, 2012 3:20 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

The part of GM Rizzo's argument against signing Fielder that I do not buy is that he says the team is heavily invested in LaRoche at 1B, and they want him to have a typical LaRoche year in order to get their money's worth.

They signed LaRoche to a 2-year deal last winter.  He produced very little early in the season, and then was put on the DL due to injury (injury which likely affected his early season production).  But to rely on LaRoche for 2012 is to discount that Mike Morse (who moved from the OF to 1B as LaRoche's 'replacement') is actually a better player than LaRoche.

So if you do not want to get into a long-term relationship with Fielder ... then OK ... say that ... but don't imply that LaRoche is going to play over Morse.  The Nationals do not have any ties to LaRoche other than the money.  Morse has earned it on the field.  I understand that Rizzo's statements need to piss off as few people as possible, but his logic is a bit disingenuous.



Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: January 2, 2012 3:15 pm
 

Prince Fielder-to-Nationals rumors won't go away

The Nats suck they brung the stink of the expos to D.C.If Fielder goes to the Nats that would a strange suprise.


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