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2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

Posted on: January 9, 2012 3:19 pm
Edited on: January 9, 2012 4:34 pm
 


By Matt Snyder


Barry Larkin was voted into the Baseball Hall of Fame with 86.4 percent of the vote. The results of the BBWAA votes were revealed Monday afternoon, and Larkin was the only player garnering the required 75 percent of the vote for enshrinement.

There were 573 total ballots, but nine were left blank. Players may remain on the ballot for 15 years, unless they fall below the five percent barrier in voting. Those who get less than five percent of the vote will be removed from the ballot prior to next year's vote.

Here's a total breakdown of how the voting went for the other 26 candidates. First, these guys will remain on the ballot moving forward:

Jack Morris - 382 votes (66.7 percent)
Jeff Bagwell - 321 (56)
Lee Smith - 290 (50.6)
Tim Raines - 279 (48.7)
Edgar Martinez - 209 (36.5)
Alan Trammell - 211 (36.8)
Fred McGriff - 137 (23.9)
Larry Walker - 131 (22.9)
Mark McGwire - 112 (19.5)
Don Mattingly - 102 (17.8)
Dale Murphy - 83 (14.5)
Rafael Palmeiro - 72 (12.6)
Bernie Williams - 55 (9.6)

Hall of Fame ballot
Now, the following players will be removed from the ballot, as they didn't get five percent of the vote:

Juan Gonzalez - 23 votes (four percent)
Vinny Castilla - 6 (1)
Tim Salmon - 5 (0.9)
Bill Mueller - 4 (0.5)
Brad Radke - 2 (0.3)
Javy Lopez - 1 (0.2)
Eric Young - 1 (0.2)
Jeromy Burnitz - 0
Brian Jordan - 0
Terry Mulholland - 0
Phil Nevin - 0
Ruben Sierra - 0
Tony Womack - 0

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Comments

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 1:09 am
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

are you seriuos jack morris won 4 rings i use to love dale murphy but its not even close jack morris was the best pithcher in all of the 80's how can he not get voted in its a tragedy that the biggest  game pitcher isnt in the hall thats fing ridiculous 250 wins was ace on everystaff he was on made rotation better for every team he was on look at the yeasr on the twins and look at there pitchers record that year and look after he left lol.
I'm not sure which language you're trying to use, but I think I got the main points.  First, you should know Jack Morris didn't win 4 rings.  So if you're using that as your main point, you should rethink it.  Second, very few people would consider Jack Morris the best pitcher of the 80's.  He had the most wins in years that begin with 198, but there were several pitchers who were statistically better during that period.  Third, 250 wins is impressive but, again, that's as much a function of his durability and his awesome teammates as anything else.  Fourth, there are a lot of pitchers who made the rotations they pitched in better.

I'm not trying to bash Jack Morris here.  I would be perfectly OK with him making the Hall.  I just think some of these arguments are ridiculous.  Particularly the one that is factually wrong.



Since: Jul 29, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2012 12:54 am
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

totally agree ERIC DAVIS was best player on teams that won 2 rings no doubt about it.



Since: Jul 29, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2012 12:45 am
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

how can jack morris not be a hall of famer are you serious 4 rings 254 wins was ace of every staff he was on and was the pitcher of the 80's not be in the hall ridiculous voters should be ashamed of themselves i would have took jack morris before barry larkin anyday of the week even though larkin was a good shortstop i dont think he was that great eric davis was the guy on those championship teams enough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Since: Jul 29, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2012 12:41 am
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

are you seriuos jack morris won 4 rings i use to love dale murphy but its not even close jack morris was the best pithcher in all of the 80's how can he not get voted in its a tragedy that the biggest  game pitcher isnt in the hall thats fing ridiculous 250 wins was ace on everystaff he was on made rotation better for every team he was on look at the yeasr on the twins and look at there pitchers record that year and look after he left lol.



Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 11:53 pm
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

If you look at his stats one thing that leaps out to me is not so much his ERA - which was inflated because of playing in Tigers Stadium as well as places like Minnesota, Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Exhibition Stadium in Toronto which was a band-box in the summer - is just the sheer amount of innings he pitched. It has to be around 250 innings a year on average which would be near the top all-time.
ERA+ adjusts for ballpark factors.  His ERA, even when adjusted for his ballparks, wasn't much better than average.  His innings pitched shows he was a workhorse.  But that hardly makes one a Hall of Famer.

I can't believe you are comparing Frank Viola to Jack Morris. That is like comparing Eric Gagne to Dennis Eckersley. 
I can't speak for the person you are referring to, but I do agree with you.  Having said that, Dennis Martinez would be a much better comparison to Jack Morris.  He just wasn't surrounded by as much talent.  I never heard many people complain about his omission.

Having said all that, I wouldn't consider Jack Morris a bad HOF vote.  I wouldn't vote for him, but I wouldn't consider it the end of the world if he made it.  I also don't see why people get so bent out of shape over guys like Bill Mueller getting a few votes.  There are a lot of writers voting here, and I'm sure the four guys who vote for a guy like Mueller know he is not deserving.  It's just their way of acknowledging their respect for a guy.  I would bet that if those same four guys thought there was any possibility their vote would decide whether or not Mueller would make the hall they would not vote for him.

No, what bothers me about the Hall of Fame is how a guy like Bill Mazeroski makes it while guys like Don Mattingly and (especially) Dale Murphy don't.

Anyone...ANYONE...who votes for Jack Morris but doesn't vote for Dale Murphy is an idiot.  The only argument that can really be made for Morris, right or wrong, is he "defined the 80's for pitchers."  Well, Dale Murphy definitely defined the 80's for hitters.  And he didn't do it by logging a lot of innings.  He did it by being freaking spectacular.  He played on one of two teams that played nationally televised games on a regular basis in the 80's.  If you are between 32 and 42 you probably grew up watching Dale Murphy.  He is pretty much exactly the type of player the Hall of Fame was built for.




Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 11:39 pm
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

If Jack Morris couldn't get in this year I doubt he will ever get in.  Shame on the BBWAA!!!



Since: Feb 5, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 10:26 pm
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

Agreed. Eric Davis was the best player on those late 80's-early 90's Reds teams.



Since: Aug 22, 2009
Posted on: January 9, 2012 10:10 pm
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

Who made a mockery of their voting rights by choosing E4?  That voter should have his priviledges revoked.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 9:10 pm
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

The two best players on that list are Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy---Barry Larkin was never the besr player on his own team



Since: Sep 3, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 8:53 pm
 

2012 Baseball Hall of Fame voting breakdown

Dale Murphy was a two time MVP and a good guy. He ddin't use steroids and played on some horrible teams. Let him in!!!!


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