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Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

Posted on: January 12, 2012 10:35 am
Edited on: January 13, 2012 10:50 pm
 


By Matt Snyder


As we continue the final trek toward spring training, we also continue the series that's gonna get us there. Our first installment of Who Would You Rather Have got some pretty good discussion going, as it pitted Roy Halladay against Justin Verlander. I believe we have an equally tough decision in front of us this time around, too.

For this installment, we look to baseball's most intense rivalry ... specifically the second basemen: Robinson Cano and Dustin Pedroia. I feel compelled to point out that we seemed to get a lot of non-answers on Twitter and in the comments (like "Tim Lincecum" to the Verlander vs. Halladay question), and I'm thinking those people didn't understand that this is an ongoing series. I can assure you that many big names from across America -- like Lincecum -- will be included at some point. You'll also have a decision between two young NL West sluggers Saturday, for example. Patience ...

Anyhow, it's Cano vs. Pedroia now. Red Sox vs. Yankees. Beantown vs. the Bronx. Let's get it on.

The case for Cano

While he was already a very good hitter, Cano has developed into one of the most feared hitters in baseball over the past two seasons, finishing in the top six of MVP voting both times. His triple slash line of .311/.365/.533 from 2010-11 is a beauty for a second baseman, not to mention the 28 homers, 46 doubles, 118 RBI and 104 runs he posted last season. It was good enough for Cano to bring home the Silver Slugger for the second consecutive season.

A model of durability as well, Cano hasn't played in less than 159 games in any of the past five seasons. Pedroia only managed 75 games in an injury-plagued 2010 season, so that's a point for Cano.

The case for Pedroia

On the other hand, Pedroia played in 157, 154 and 159 games, respectively, in three of the past four seasons, so it's not like he's injury prone. Pedroia, the 2007 Rookie of the Year, also won the 2008 MVP. And Pedroia can do it all. He hit 21 home runs last season while stealing 26 bases and also winning a Gold Glove (his second). His .307/.387/.474 line is competitive with Cano's, too. Where Pedroia has a bit less home-run power, he makes up for it by getting on base. He holds a .373 to .347 advantage in career OBP.

Pedroia has one World Series ring, but so does Cano.

Cano will make $14 million in 2012 while Pedroia will make $8 million, but Pedroia's salary increases in the next several years while Cano is a free agent after a 2013 club option. Age is a veritable wash, as Cano is roughly 10 months older.

Really, any which way you can divide this up, it's a very close call. Many advanced defensive metrics show Pedroia with a significant edge in range, hence the 2011 Fielding Bible award -- meaning the stat crowd views him as the best defensive second baseman in all of baseball. Cano is viewed as no better than average defensively from that perspective. Cano did win the 2010 AL Gold Glove, but Gold Glove voting has produced dubious results at times -- like Rafael Palmeiro taking the honors in 1999 while playing only 28 games in the field. Unlike many younger bloggers and writers, I don't totally discount the Gold Glove, but I do trust the Fielding Bible awards more. Of course, using either one gives the defensive edge to Pedroia -- and you could argue Cano only won the 2010 Gold Glove because Pedroia was hurt anyway, which I would.

Our call

I'm going to go with Pedroia here in a photo finish, the closest of calls, based upon the defensive separation. The two are very close across the board. Just as with yesterday's pick, I could go either way and there definitely isn't a wrong answer. In fact, we have over 20 of these posts lined up, and this may well be the hardest choice among them.

But now it's your turn. Vote and comment away.

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Comments

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2012 8:52 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

As a 45 year Red Sox fan I really have no choice.If everyone watched Dustin every day,as I have since his arrival,he would be the best. If I watched Cano every day I might feel differently.

These Red Sox are hard to like.I'm seriously thinking of opening up my Tampa Bay Shirts & Bobbleheads.After allll,I'll be damned if I'd be a Yankee Cool



Since: Dec 17, 2011
Posted on: January 13, 2012 7:55 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

This site is buggy, dude.  I did a simple copy and paste and CBS froze up.  Or, I'll hit 'submit' and it takes me back to the sign-in screen to log on again. 




Since: Dec 17, 2011
Posted on: January 13, 2012 7:49 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

Once, twice, three times a lady!



Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: January 13, 2012 7:13 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

One .. learn to spell ..

Two .. to say the best player in the league .. you need to suspend your "Yankee blinders".

I am a Red Sox fan and while I love everything about Pedroia .. this whole entire argument is impossible to come up with a definite "winner".  Cano is a complete hitter and outstanding in all categories.  Pedroia is very good in his own right, and the fact that he hit clean up this year shows his ability to make something happen offensively.

Your statement "You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but you haven't even seen a fraction of what Cano will eventually bring in the future.  there is no doubt in my mind that before Cano's career is over he will be bringing Miguel Cabrera type numbers for the Yankees.  Pedroia, on the other hand, has already peaked and there is nothing but a decline in his future." ...

Again .. only showing your "Pinstripes" as you have absolutely no idea what will happen in the future and can not possibly predict what will happen to either of these players.  So knock it off with your biased comments and making bold absolute statements and accusations as well as your last sentence which is ignorant and moronic at best.



Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: January 13, 2012 7:12 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

One .. learn to spell ..

Two .. to say the best player in the league .. you need to suspend your "Yankee blinders".

I am a Red Sox fan and while I love everything about Pedroia .. this whole entire argument is impossible to come up with a definite "winner".  Cano is a complete hitter and outstanding in all categories.  Pedroia is very good in his own right, and the fact that he hit clean up this year shows his ability to make something happen offensively.

Your statement "You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but you haven't even seen a fraction of what Cano will eventually bring in the future.  there is no doubt in my mind that before Cano's career is over he will be bringing Miguel Cabrera type numbers for the Yankees.  Pedroia, on the other hand, has already peaked and there is nothing but a decline in his future." ...

Again .. only showing your "Pinstripes" as you have absolutely no idea what will happen in the future and can not possibly predict what will happen to either of these players.  So knock it off with your biased comments and making bold absolute statements and accusations as well as your last sentence which is ignorant and moronic at best.



Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: January 13, 2012 7:11 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

One .. learn to spell ..

Two .. to say the best player in the league .. you need to suspend your "Yankee blinders".

I am a Red Sox fan and while I love everything about Pedroia .. this whole entire argument is impossible to come up with a definite "winner".  Cano is a complete hitter and outstanding in all categories.  Pedroia is very good in his own right, and the fact that he hit clean up this year shows his ability to make something happen offensively.

Your statement "You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but you haven't even seen a fraction of what Cano will eventually bring in the future.  there is no doubt in my mind that before Cano's career is over he will be bringing Miguel Cabrera type numbers for the Yankees.  Pedroia, on the other hand, has already peaked and there is nothing but a decline in his future." ...

Again .. only showing your "Pinstripes" as you have absolutely no idea what will happen in the future and can not possibly predict what will happen to either of these players.  So knock it off with your biased comments and making bold absolute statements and accusations as well as your last sentence which is ignorant and moronic at best.



Since: Dec 17, 2011
Posted on: January 13, 2012 6:31 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

I'm with Baseballguy. Gimmie either guy and I'll sleep very well at night.

I'm with Spagsman.

For the sake of argument, if I had to pick, of course it'd be Cano.  C'mon, Pedroia is just too short.  Sure, he's spunky and all but how many times does the little guy jump just as high as he can and still the ball sails over his glove.  Not counted as an error.

No, there are reasons there aren't many guys in the MLB that are 5'6" like little Pedey.



Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: January 13, 2012 5:55 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

Mr Snyder, I do believe that you are talking like a Red Sox fan, Dustin is a quality 2nd baseman but he has over achieved and is on the down side.  Pitcher have adjusted to Pedroia lunging at pitches, and are started to throw junk just under his hand and are not giving him the fast ball to pounce on, While Cano just seems to have extremely quick hands and can hit to all fields with power and balance.  Pedroia is mostly a player that does well in that little park that he plays in, if he had to play in a normal size park he would be lucky to get 10 jacks.  I have not heard it said that Pedroia is considered one of the most feared hitter in the game, as you stated about Cano and look for Cano to get another silver slugge award just to show that the past two years were not mistakes.

As far as defense goes, Cano gets to balls that should have gotten through and got the errors trying to make the spectacular throw, but most importantly he is always in the proper place and makes all of the plays that he should.  So be honest, the Red Soxs gave you perks to make this error in judgement right, and the poll will bear me out, ROBINSON CANO ANY AND EVERYDAY OVER DUSTIN PEDROIA.  D. Pedroia won't be too upset, after all the poll will show that he is in the top 5 but not #1.     &n
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Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: January 13, 2012 5:10 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

I'm with Baseballguy. Gimmie either guy and I'll sleep very well at night. But if I had to pick just, I'd go Robbie just because of his power. But both are team guys, unselfish (as far as I can see) and make everyone around them better.



Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2012 4:50 pm
 

Would You Rather Have: Cano or Pedroia?

That was a real mature statement, was it his problem what was happening in the clubhouse with the pitchers?  What does he see most of them maybe three times a week?  If anything the man that wears the C on his shoulder should be held accountable for this as much as any player.  As for views on my Sooners, you only know who Brent Venables is because his defense got torched this year, what about those years when he coached above average players into amazing play?  Landry Jones may not be many peoples favorite but he still threw for over 4,000 yards this year, he may not have the leadership role figured out but he was big enough to recognize this and come back for his senior season and attempt to grow.  If it works then look out for OU next January if not he still throws for 4,000 yards and gives them an opportunity at a win.  The offense did score 86 points in three losses this year, all the blame cant be put at his feet.


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