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Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

Posted on: January 13, 2012 7:41 pm
Edited on: January 13, 2012 10:39 pm

By C. Trent Rosecrans

So much for that quiet Yankees winter. New York has finally made its move for a pitcher, agreeing to trade for right-hander Michael Pineda from the Mariners in exchange for top prospect Jesus Montero,'s Jon Heyman reports. The Mariners will also get right-hander Hector Noesi, while right-hander Jose Campos goes the Yankees, Heyman reports. The deal is pending physicals.

Yankees' big night

Pineda, 22, went 9-10 with a 3.74 ERA for the Mariners last season, striking out 173 batters in 171 innings. The 6-foot-7 Pineda was an early front-runner for Rookie of the Year, going 8-6 with a 3.03 ERA in 18 starts in the first half of the season, but struggled down the stretch going 1-4 with a 5.12 ERA in 10 starts, despite his walk and strikeout rates remaining relatively steady during those two stretches. He also benefitted from the spacious Safeco Field, putting up a 2.92 ERA in 12 starts at home and a 4.40 ERA in 16 games on the road.

Montero, also 22, played in 18 games for the Yankees last season, hitting .328/.406/.590 with four home runs and 12 RBI in 18 games and 69 plate appearances. He started three games at catcher and 14 as the team's designated hitter. He also appeared in a game of the American League Division Series against the Tigers, hitting two singles in two plate appearances, driving in a run. In Triple-A, he hit .288/.348/.467 with 18 homers at Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. 

Montero has been seen as a finished product at the plate, but drew plenty of questions behind it. Many see the right-handed hitter as unable to catch every day in the big leagues and is better suited to being a full-time DH or first baseman.

Noesi will be 25 later this month and went 2-2 with a 4.47 ERA in 30 appearances for the Yankees in 2011, including two starts. Overal the he struck out 45 and walked 22 in 56 1/3 innings.

Campos, 19, went 5-5 with a 2.32 ERA at Low-A Everett, starting 14 games. He struck out 85 and walked 13 in 81 1/3 innings.

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Since: Dec 23, 2006
Posted on: January 14, 2012 9:44 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

People need to get a grip with all of the "Pineda doesn't have the mental makeup to pitch in NY" and "Pineda tired out in the second half" and "this could cost Cashman his job."

Pineda is 22 (almost 23).  How do you know whether he has the mental makeup to pitch in NY?  Because of one season of not pitching in NY?  That's your reasoning?  Nope.  Doesn't compute.  Get a grip.  How's about we let the kid pitch a little first, and then make decisions and judgments?'s much easier to write him off now at 22!

He has played one season at the ML level.  So, he tired out in the second half.  Do you know how many rookie pitchers tire out in the second half of the ML season?  Most if not all.  He's not unique in that. 

And exactly how would this trade cost Cashman his job after this season?  The trade involved two players who are 22, one of whom could wind up a DH if it turns out he's a defensive liability. I would guess that the worth of this deal will not be felt after just one season...again, the key players involved are 22!

The over-reaction train has left the station...

Since: Jun 21, 2010
Posted on: January 14, 2012 9:24 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

Nice move by the Mariners.  Pineda has had serious arm problems in the past, and due to his throwing motion and delivery the general concenus is he will experience an arm injury again.  It is one thing to pitch in Seattle, without any pressure to perform, the media scrutinty, and distractions than it will be to pitch for the Yankees.  Much will be asked and expected of him.  Pineda has the talent, with much risk ( injury ), I question if he has the mental makeup to pitch in NY.  Montero has shown an ability to perform in NY, and rise to the level of expectations the media, fans, and the organization had for him.  While he may not be an everyday, behind the plate catcher, he will have an everyday spot in the lineup for the Mariners.  Pitching is king in baseball right now, and to give up Pineda tells me that Seattle may not have been sold on him as others were.

Since: Dec 19, 2010
Posted on: January 14, 2012 9:20 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

Yankees refused to allow Montero to bat in the Carribean Winter League this season (he was there, and in uniform).  Perhaps they know something that Seattle doesn't.

When you covet a guy like Montero the way the Yanks have over the past couple of years, you don't suddenly do a 180 unless something happened.  Look, Cashman is far from being an idiot, so either they see something wrong with Montero (which could be as simple as they are overloaded at the DH position, and Montero is not a great catcher), or they see anupside with Pineda (which could also be as simple as having him under their control over the next few years).

Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: January 14, 2012 8:43 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

Very nice trade for the Mariners. Yankees were dumb to do this trade. Montero would have been a stud in that ballpark. Pineda struggled big time in second half while pitching in the west. Welcome o the east. I see an era in the high 4 for him.

Since: Jun 15, 2010
Posted on: January 14, 2012 8:40 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

hey ez, i will think about you and your loser team shoveling snow as i sit on the beach everyday sipping a pina colada. the only bad thing is when your fans come down here. i go blind from seeing all the potbellied, pasty skin, knuckle dragging, hairy backed bostonians( and the men are even worse!)

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 14, 2012 8:30 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

BTW, Your favorite player will kick you & your entire city to the curb for an extra buck.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 14, 2012 8:28 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

Hey, I can stick with Boston.I am/was impressed with your team, but they are certainly not a frontrunner.Now I'll wish the worst for the Tampa players,families, paperboys, & YOU!I'll be here toremind you of every loss,injury divorces.I hope there are no fatalities..Boston may or may not win the division, but Tampa wont either.I guess that makes you a back runner.
Tampa & LA-The new evil empires.

Since: Nov 21, 2011
Posted on: January 14, 2012 8:23 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

skinzfan i agree, not sure that i hate Pinero coming over but not at this expense! Montero showed games of greatness with his bat, only a hint of what this kid can do at the plate, and while i am positive he was never going to be great behind the plate, joe mauer never was the greatest defensive catcher. the position has changed from the days of catchers like pudge who can not only play defense, hit but can also handle pitchers(maybe pudges background as a young pitcher?) the yanks had coveted Montero and would not part with him over the past two seasons in any deals they had attempted to make. i am not so sure if they had offered montero they could not have got a drabek or marcum? either of those would have 15 with that team behind them. I think Pinero is a bit of a gamble! we'll see

Since: Apr 5, 2007
Posted on: January 14, 2012 8:12 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

Love the trade for the Yanks.  I liked Montero, but once the Yanks decided he's more a DH thn a catcher this became a no-brainer.  A lot remains to be seen about Pineda, but even I can tell his ceiling is pretty high.  A pitching coach's wet dream.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: January 14, 2012 7:55 am

Yankees agree to trade Montero for Pineda

i am not a fan of this trade. the yankees traded their prized prospect for a 22 year old pitcher who wore down as the season went on. He wont be pitching in spacious safeco field or in the al west anymore. he'll be pitching in a smaller ballpark and in the al east. i'm not a fan of this move at all not only do we not receive king felix we trade away our starting DH. there is a huge hole in the yankees lineup, as they have no dh. i'm hearing carlos pena.. really?? thats the idea... not a fan of this move..what is cashman thinking. pineda will struggle in ny just watch. i hope he doesnt but i have this feeling his makeup isnt built for the big city and pressure of pitching in ny.. noesi with him.. really? for a kid campos who was in low a ball.. not a good move.. cashman got whacked in this deal.. at the end of the season when this move is reflected back on could cost him his job..

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