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Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Posted on: January 18, 2012 5:21 pm
Edited on: January 18, 2012 5:23 pm
 
Theo EpsteinBy C. Trent Rosecrans

Both the Cubs and Red Sox have asked Bud Selig to decide what the compensation for Theo Epstein's move to Chicago will be, the Chicago Sun-Times' Gordon Wittenmyer reports.

Red Sox president Larry Lucchino initiated the move, according to the report. It's still unclear how long the ruling will take from Selig or what it will be, as there is apparently no precedent for it.

Selig had set a Nov. 1 deadline for the compensation, but that was later extended indefinitely.

Lucchino has apparently asked for the likes of Matt Garza or Cubs top prospect Brett Jackson, which the Cubs have determined to be too costly.

In 1994, the Cubs sent a Class A pitcher (Hector Trinidad) to the Twins in return for the poaching of GM Andy MacPhail. Trinidad never reached the majors.

The Red Sox -- pointing toward Epstein's five-year, $18.5 million contract -- are claiming Epstein is more valuable than a low-level prospect, while Epstein has been left to downplay his own value.

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Comments

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:09 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

"Show me the precedent where an established major league pitcher or a top minor league prospect has been traded "in exchange for" a GM, and then I will believe that the Red Sox are entitled to Garza or Jackson."

Epstein is not a GM, he is the President of Baseball Operations. We aren't talking Clayton Kershaw, we are talking Matt Garza. Jackson is a prospect. I do not think the Red Sox are out of line for wanting either player. I think it is ludicrous for the Red Sox to accept a bag of balls and be done with it. 



Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 6:00 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

More poor FA signings  .. Matt Clement .. Brad Penny .. John Smoltz  .... GENIUS!!!




Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 5:54 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Wily Mo Pena ... for Bronson Arroyo AND Cash before the 2006 season .. Genius!!!



Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 5:45 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

@ SoxCeltsPatsB's, Theo made the deal to get Beckett and Lowell. I realize he was not the "GM" for the Sox at the time. He was still working in their front office and put that deal together. Did you think John Henry or Luchino made the deal.

*******

Acutally it was Cherington and Hoyer that worked that deal out and they were serving as Co-GMs at the time.  Theo was on hiatus figuring out what he wanted in life and had nothing to do with it.

As for the 2007 Championship ... sure he had some components, so it wasn't all bad, but this was the crucial move and put us over the top.

Theo had some success from within the organization, but with so many bad FA signings over they years, it's amazing anyone considers him valuable.   Renteria, Lugo, Drew, Crawford, Schilling (on his last contract of $8 mill where he didn't play a single game), Lackey, Cameron, Over-posting for Dice-K, Jenks, Gagne (trade) .. letting Masterson go for a rental in V-Mart  .. and i'm sure i'm missing a few ... that's A LOT of mistakes.   Sorry .. beyond overrated.

  




Since: Dec 15, 2009
Posted on: January 19, 2012 4:52 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Considerable compensation should be conditional now that it has dragged on to this point. If the Cubs win more than 71 games (last years total) the Red Sox should be awarded a second round draft pick in 2013 draft. If the Cubs win less than 71 games a third round draft pick in 2013, and if the Cubs make it to the playoffs, a first round draft pick...More than fair enough for both teams



Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2012 3:15 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Whos worse? Your an idiot..........



Since: Jan 19, 2012
Posted on: January 19, 2012 3:10 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Let's be real. The Red Sox have very little bargaining power left with Epstein already an employee of the Cubs. Garza and Jackson are pie in the sky thinking. I'm thinking a bag of balls and some ace bandages should do the trick. Good luck Larry getting more then that!



Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 2:19 pm
 

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hey cub fans - if theo is the savior you think he is, then why are you complaining about what you have to give up? 

That's why this is called a negotiation stupid.


nobody feels bad for you because you root for the worst team in the history of professional sports. 

Weren't you in pretty much the same boat whn Theo arrived? As if the Red Sox have some long history of winning--but then again, you probably jumped on the badwagon with the rest...

We for a group of people who gave a standing ovation when the signing of kerry wood was announced,

Um, the Red Sox fans use to give Manny Ramirez standing ovations a day after he made trade demands, and couldn't muster the energy to run to first base...






Since: Dec 27, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2012 1:25 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

You're an idiot ... I'm sorry, there isn't much else to be said other than that.

Cubs fans are excited about Theo, but nobody ever said "savior" (you watch too much TV). You're claim of "worst team in the history of professional sports" is so idiotic I don't even know where to begin. And Kerry Wood has shown a charitable dedication to the city of Chicago, which is, in part, why so many people appreciate him. How you even manage to put your clothes on in the morning is a mystery in itself. Pick up a book, and put down the lead paint.



Since: May 27, 2011
Posted on: January 19, 2012 12:39 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Just send the Red Sox a case of White Wine and gift cards to a nice Northside Indian Restaurant..a typical Cubs baseball fanatic's pre game or post game meal Laughing


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