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Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Posted on: January 18, 2012 5:21 pm
Edited on: January 18, 2012 5:23 pm
Theo EpsteinBy C. Trent Rosecrans

Both the Cubs and Red Sox have asked Bud Selig to decide what the compensation for Theo Epstein's move to Chicago will be, the Chicago Sun-Times' Gordon Wittenmyer reports.

Red Sox president Larry Lucchino initiated the move, according to the report. It's still unclear how long the ruling will take from Selig or what it will be, as there is apparently no precedent for it.

Selig had set a Nov. 1 deadline for the compensation, but that was later extended indefinitely.

Lucchino has apparently asked for the likes of Matt Garza or Cubs top prospect Brett Jackson, which the Cubs have determined to be too costly.

In 1994, the Cubs sent a Class A pitcher (Hector Trinidad) to the Twins in return for the poaching of GM Andy MacPhail. Trinidad never reached the majors.

The Red Sox -- pointing toward Epstein's five-year, $18.5 million contract -- are claiming Epstein is more valuable than a low-level prospect, while Epstein has been left to downplay his own value.

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Since: Jan 19, 2012
Posted on: January 19, 2012 12:27 pm

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Show me the precedent where an established major league pitcher or a top minor league prospect has been traded "in exchange for" a GM, and then I will believe that the Red Sox are entitled to Garza or Jackson.  Otherwise, Boston should take a flier on a mid-level prospect and end this nonsense...

Since: Nov 5, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:48 am

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@ho88mer1 Read the article. Boston wants Garza OR their top pick Brett Jackson. Not both. And for what Theo brings to an organization, whether the Sox wanted to keep him around or not, Garza OR a top pick is a steal. If the Cubs deal Garza to the Sox and Theo is instrumental in the Cubs winning a World Series, as he was for the Sox, nobody will even think twice. In fact many will say the Sox settled for too little. And jackwagons will be on here laughing at the Sox for letting him go for so little a price. Jealous little babies who have nothing better to do than Bash Boston on these boards. Don't worry, once the Pats win Another SB, you will have something else to hate Boston about.
@Rockety, Its the Cubs not the Whitesox, but I agree with you and you can ship Lackey anywhere you want.
@ SoxCeltsPatsB's, Theo made the deal to get Beckett and Lowell. I realize he was not the "GM" for the Sox at the time. He was still working in their front office and put that deal together. Did you think John Henry or Luchino made the deal.

And before you all start bashing, I am not a Theo fan. I think he has dug a huge hole for the Sox and MOST of his signings were garbage. But if anyone thinks Theo was not a HUGE factor in the Sox winning two World Series, you are quite mistaken.

Since: Oct 1, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:02 am

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Agree.  A first round pick and some cash (perhaps the amount it cost to sign the player drafted in 2011 at the Cubs 2012 slot) would constitute 'valuable' consideration, and provide the same mysterious upside that the Cubs have obtained in acquiring Theo.

Since: Dec 18, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 8:59 am

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

The Red Sox front office is crazy to think Theo is worth Garza and the Cubs top prospect Brett Jackson. That is just what I expect from Boston. They wanted someone out of there organization but as soon as someone shows interest in that person, they come back and say "Oh he was to valuable for us we need compensation for him." Sorry Boston if Theo was that important to your organization then maybe you should have greatful when you had him. Now you want high price merchandise for something you were get rid of already. That is just another reason why I dislike the Boston Red Sox. They will never change.

Since: Oct 19, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 8:19 am

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Why did the Red Sox allow Epstein to leave for Chicago without having decided on compensation?  That never made sense. 

Just really wanted to get rid of him I guess.  Still it makes no sense that they let it happen but you really have to think they just flat out wanted him gone!

Since: Dec 5, 2011
Posted on: January 19, 2012 7:44 am

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hey cub fans - if theo is the savior you think he is, then why are you complaining about what you have to give up?  nobody feels bad for you because you root for the worst team in the history of professional sports.  for a group of people who gave a standing ovation when the signing of kerry wood was announced, why worry about giving up garza or jackson?  i mean come on - you guys re-signed kerry wood!!  championships!!!  morons

Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 3:12 am

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Gotta agree with Rockety ...

Make "boy wonder" take his prized free agent off our hands ... take Lackey with you and all is good.   You ruined the Sox financially by signing this bum along with a redonkulous contract for Crawford ... it's the least you can do.

Thank God this over-rated bum left the Sox just long enough for us to land Beckett and Lowell ... otherwise we would not have won in 2007.  

Theo = over-rated .... good riddence

Since: Jan 19, 2012
Posted on: January 19, 2012 2:20 am
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Since: Aug 18, 2011
Posted on: January 19, 2012 1:53 am

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

and who do you follow?

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 1:50 am

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Dear Mr. Selig,

Please make the Chicago White Sox take John Lackey as compensation.  Problem solved.

The end.

Thank you.

Red Sox Fans

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