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Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Posted on: January 18, 2012 5:21 pm
Edited on: January 18, 2012 5:23 pm
 
Theo EpsteinBy C. Trent Rosecrans

Both the Cubs and Red Sox have asked Bud Selig to decide what the compensation for Theo Epstein's move to Chicago will be, the Chicago Sun-Times' Gordon Wittenmyer reports.

Red Sox president Larry Lucchino initiated the move, according to the report. It's still unclear how long the ruling will take from Selig or what it will be, as there is apparently no precedent for it.

Selig had set a Nov. 1 deadline for the compensation, but that was later extended indefinitely.

Lucchino has apparently asked for the likes of Matt Garza or Cubs top prospect Brett Jackson, which the Cubs have determined to be too costly.

In 1994, the Cubs sent a Class A pitcher (Hector Trinidad) to the Twins in return for the poaching of GM Andy MacPhail. Trinidad never reached the majors.

The Red Sox -- pointing toward Epstein's five-year, $18.5 million contract -- are claiming Epstein is more valuable than a low-level prospect, while Epstein has been left to downplay his own value.

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Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: January 19, 2012 1:39 am
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Garza, or Brett Jackson....Hey Boston.....SCREW YOU!!!!!! Seriously, you want our No.1 pitcher, or our top prospect...if you want cash and a player along the lines of Blake DeWitt then deal...The Red Sox are smoking some strong stuff over in Beantown if they think they will get Garza or Jackson.



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 1:13 am
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Believe it or not....Theo Epstein was not released from his contract....he was FIRED! But the Red Sox demanded (like everything they do) that Epstein quit/step down for the good of the team because the owners were tired of Epstein getting all the credit for the Red Sox's success. The Red Sox owners thought that anyone could run the Red Sox so they hired some 30 year old kid (yes...I said it!!!) and the kid got pawned with authority because as the GM in waiting he was the one who had to decide what the proper compensation was in "trading " Epstein to the Cubs. But the kid couldn't make up his mind and asked the clueless owners for help. All they care about is getting glory...they don't know a thing about running a successful baseball team. 



Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:46 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Fair or not, like it or not, the Cubs and Sox agreed that the Sox would receive "valuable compensation" in exchange for the release of Theo from the remaining year of his contract. What Selig needs to decide is the meaning of "valuable". As I understand it, parameters were set up by Lucchino, and agreed to by the Cubs, before the Sox signed off on Theo's good riddance. Lucchino is no dumbie, I met the guy though don't know him, so I'm suspecting there will be guidelines that enable Selig to arrive at a level of compensation that falls within those parameters. Yeah, I'm a Sox fan, and was disgusted when someone within the organization threw Francona under the bus after he took the fall for his role in their September collapse - some, in media, say that it was Theo who released Tito's personal information to the writer of the article. What I haven't seen is a denial. If true, I could very well see "valuable" being defined by Mr. Selig as including the likes of Matt Garza.



Since: Dec 23, 2008
Posted on: January 18, 2012 10:20 pm
 

Insane

This is crazy. The Red Sox are playing the system and asking for a successful veteran starter or a top 5 prospect for a GM that they were going to let go anyway. If Selig gives them anything more than a couple mid-level prospects it will end up a making him look stupid. It is borderline ridiculous that the Red Sox are asking for the moon and trying to take what few prospects the Cubs have for a front office official. There should be no compensation if they allowed him to leave; that shows how much they value him. Otherwise Boston wouldn't have allowed him to talk to Rickkets in the first place.



Since: Aug 26, 2008
Posted on: January 18, 2012 10:18 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

funny that lucchino says theo is so valuable considering nobody on earth is happier that theo is out of boston.



Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:58 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

"Epstein has been left to downplay his own value". Epstein: I signed JD Drew, John Lackey, Julio Lugo, Matt Clement, Carl Crawford, and Dice-K to multi year deals while letting Andrian Belte, Victor Martinez and Tito go...... How valuable can I be. Selling: Bah Humbug.... Theo is right... He sucks. He will fit right into Chicago's motto of signing 2nd tier payers for much more then they are worth. Henry: Damn, I hoped you all forgot about those signings.



Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:50 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

All this further shows that Bud Selig has no control over anything concerning MLB. This shouldn't even be talked about anymore. It's almost efn February for crying out loud. No reason this should be an issue anymore. It should've been settled a long long time ago!



Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:43 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

Why did the Red Sox allow Epstein to leave for Chicago without having decided on compensation?  That never made sense.  

The good news is they chocked so miserably down the stretch last fall -- and did so in such an unlikeable fashion -- that instances of mere idiocy like this barely register on the radar of Sox fans like me.    

 



Since: Nov 21, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:42 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

i believe it is only fair that they are compensated ... the cubs should get at least 1 first round pick...they will see soon enough!



Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:27 pm
 

Report: Cubs, Red Sox ask Selig for help

I guess the redsox never gave him their blessing to leave with one year left on the contract. If it was gm to gm I can see agripe but isn't epstein title director of operations or something like that. If I was Selig I would ask the redsox and cubs to give him 5 names each. If the redsox put garza or jackson on that list they will be wasting space because they won't get that as compensation. Selig should have a no problem finding fair comp that way. btw works both ways if the cubs put too low level players on the list they wouldn't be considered. So really put some thought in it redsox and cubs.


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