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Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

Posted on: January 21, 2012 11:02 am
Edited on: January 21, 2012 1:46 pm
Prince Fielder

By C. Trent Rosecrans

Prince Fielder is still a free agent, but it may be because Fielder and agent Scott Boras haven't told anyone exactly what they're looking to get in a new contract.


Rangers president Nolan Ryan said he doesn't know what it would take to sign Fielder, despite having meetings with the slugger and the superagent. Speaking to ESPN Dallas 103.3 (via the Washington Times), Ryan said he didn't know what it'd take to sign Fielder.

"Hard to say," Ryan said. "Because they've never made a firm proposal to us. They talk in generalities and numbers and other people's contracts, and so you can speculate what it is. One time they're talking eight years, one time they're talking 10 years, one time they're talking about a contract bigger than Ryan Howard's in Philadelphia."

Howard signed a five-year, $135 million extension in 2010 that begins in the 2012 season. Howard's contract will pay him $20 million in the next two seasons and $25 million in the last three with a $23 million club option  for 2017 with a $10 million buyout. Fielder, though, is five years younger than Howard.

There's also Albert Pujols' megadeal out there as well for comparison. Pujols signed a 10-year deal worth $240 million.

Another member of the Rangers' brass, co-chairman of the board Bob Simpson, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that the Rangers aren't necessarily out of the bidding for Fielder, but would need Fielder's price to come down and accept a backloaded deal.

"If they come around to something we can do, we'll take a look at it," Simpson told the newspaper.

However, Simpson told reporters (via the Star-Telegram) that the team would rather re-sign Josh Hamilton than Fielder. Hamilton is a free agent after the season. Simpson said it's unlikely the team could afford both.

"My personal preference, at this moment, would be to re-sign him instead of having Fielder. But we could all debate that," Simpson said. "The organization has its feelings. Everybody dreams about having both. Sometimes you can’t have both at some level. If they came around to something we’d do, we’d look at him. But we don’t think it’s likely."

The Nationals and Rangers are the teams most often linked to Fielder, but don't be surprised if a "mystery team" gets involved -- and remember the "mystery team" has a pretty good track record the last two seasons, signing both Cliff Lee and Pujols.

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Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: January 21, 2012 2:20 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

I will never understand why any first baseman would get the kind of money these guys are demanding.  Its little more than a glorified D.H.  Remember thats where U stick players who can no longer play a real position.  He (Fielder) may be playing everyday now but with that weight I doubt he will be in 5yrs.  Not worth half what he wants. 

Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: January 21, 2012 2:18 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

If the Nationals are in it, then the Orioles have to be in the running also and that would be one of the "mystery teams". I still think Texas is the best fit (although sinking all that money into Yu has to hurt their chances), with San Fran, Cubs and St. Louis all being potential suitors that make since and should have the financial ability. Who knows, I could even see the Pirates emerging as a possibility considering the fact that they showed they want to be buyers, not sellers, last season.  

Bottom line - Fielder makes any team a better team, it's just a matter of how much the Superdoosh SuperAgent
 is in his head and what motivates the big man more, a possibility of a World Series sooner rather than later or just the all mighty dollar.

Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: January 21, 2012 1:48 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

As a Angel fan I want to see Fielder sign with the Rangers, I just have a feeling he will become another Mo Vaughn. It also seems the Rangers are not the rich oil backed money that they want people to think. If they are trying to sign Fielder to keep pace with the Angels or stay in the headlines they are making a mistake because they have a very good unselfish team. I think they are still the team to beat in the A.L. and I don't want to see at bats taken away from Michael Young.

Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: January 21, 2012 1:46 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

Do the Rangers really want that FAT CHEESE BALL  for all the money he is asking for ?
Any team won't mind adding a power hitter that will hit between 28-50 homeruns a season, their no doubt that Fielder would make the Rangers a better team.  I won't be surprise if the Tigers make a push for Fielder, since one of their star players was injured for the season.

Since: Nov 13, 2009
Posted on: January 21, 2012 1:42 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

Prince Fielder and agent Scott Boras need to lower their demands.  I don't think Fielder is worth a nine-digit contract.  Prince Fielder is one of those players who will sign a lucrative 8-10 years contract, and will become lazy and unproductive.  He's already heavy set so I can't imagine him gaining weight from being incompetent during the off-season.  The Texas Rangers are doing the right thing by not going after Prince Fielder too quickly.  Personally, the only team I see signing Fielder to his demands are the Washington Nationals. Clearly, Prince is in it for the money and not the accolades nor potential World Series titles.  

Since: Apr 20, 2009
Posted on: January 21, 2012 1:42 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

This thread is a multi-million dollar free-agent signing lovevest. 

Everyone is cordially and happily discussing 25+ million dollar free agent contracts to teams that have already signed a multitude of high tier superstar multi-year contracts. 

The Angels sign Pujols to a contract similar to ARods and they also sign C J Wilson and all is great in MLB baseballville.

The Rangers just finished paying out a record contract for a Japanese player and they are taling about also signing Fielder for a multi-year contract of upwards of 25+ million per year and all is great in MLB baseballville.

The Marlins have been signing free agents up the Ying-Yang in a run for a hopefull championship run and all is well in MLB baseballville.

The Phillies signed a firstbaseman for a multiyear contract worth 25M per year plus they sign what are arguably the two best pitcher in MLB in Halladay and Lee and all is well in MLB baseballville.

The Red Sox las year sign one of the better firstbasemen in the league and a standout OF (befire a dissapointing 2011 season) and there was no outcry in baseballville.

The Nationals sig ... anyway, I think we all get the point, don't we?

In other words, everyone appears to agree and understand that this is how business is done and there is no trolling or name calling of any kind so long as a "certain team" is not involved.  Once a mention is made of that "certain team," all hell breaks out with shouts and screams of "buying championships" and "payroll."

Guess which team that might be?

That would be correct, but don't say it too loud lest this forum explode with the fury.

/shakes head

Since: Dec 5, 2011
Posted on: January 21, 2012 1:25 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

Prince Fielder still doesn't have a team, but already he is almost assuredly about to set a record this year. No free agent ever has signed a nine-figure contract this late in the offseason.

There have been 19 contracts signed by free agents worth $100 million or more. Only two of them were signed as late as January: by Matt Holliday (Jan. 6, 2010) and by the current record holder of the longest wait, Carlos Beltran (Jan. 9, 2005). Holliday, Beltran and Fielder have at least one thing in common: all have been represented by Scott Boras in such protracted negotiations.

The waiting game did not appear to hurt Holliday or Beltran but Fielder is pushing it to new limits with camps set to open a month from today. His market value is probably at least eight years and $184 million, given that he is a year younger and has put up slightly better numbers than Mark Teixeira when Teixeira signed with the Yankees for eight years and $180 million after the 2008 season.

Unless a stealth team comes to the fore, Fielder's best options look like Texas and Washington. The Rangers' $111 million commitment to Yu Darvish may or may not close them out of Fielder. (Rangers GM Jon Daniels called such another big investment "very unlikely.") But both clubs may be in position to extract a compromise.

The Rangers look like the best baseball fit for Fielder, given that they are two-time defending AL champions, play in a great ballpark for slugging and can give Fielder the opportunity to DH occasionally to keep him fresh. The Rangers have been so occupied with Darvish that it made sense for Fielder to wait for their full attention.

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2012 1:02 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

OK, with Borass as his agent, he would like to get Albert numbers, BUT, he hasn't produced Albert numbers yet.  Albert is a lifetime .328 hitter, he is roughly a .285 hitter, Abbert averages 40 HRs a year, his is around 38, Albert (with the exception of this years 99) gives you 100+ RBI's per year, he has hit the 100 RBI total in only four of his years.  So there are reasons why Albert should get $25mil per year and Prince shouldn't.  Sure there may be a mystery team in the midst, but probabaly not one that'll give up that kind of money, besides Texas nad the Nationals.  He won't do the Nats because he needs rings, and he needs rings soon.  I really think, like the article says, the Rangers would rather have Hamilton, even though Prince has played in more games, Hamilton is a risk to hurt himself everytime he goes for a fly ball or runs the bases.  Prince should have signed with the Brewers last year when they waived $100mil at him instead of being greedy and being where he is now.

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: January 21, 2012 12:46 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

Yeah, he'll do a one-year deal with the brewers.  lol.  And what happens when he tears an ACL?  Or only plays 70+ games due to an injury?  That's a good plan, leave over 100 million on the table and chance it for 25.  You guys should be agents! 

Since: Nov 27, 2011
Posted on: January 21, 2012 12:40 pm

Ryan: Rangers unsure of Fielder's demands

Do the Rangers really want that FAT CHEESE BALL  for all the money he is asking for ? 

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