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Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:36 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 6:18 pm

Bobby ValentineBy C. Trent Rosecrans

Somewhere in Bobby Valentine's office, there may be a checklist of people he should insult.

Monday, it was his predecessor with the Red Sox and Tuesday it's his rival, the Yankees. First on the list of Yankees to tweak? Alex Rodriguez, second was Derek Jeter.

When discussing retiring Boston catcher Jason Varitek, Valentine took a swipe at A-Rod. In a list of positives about Varitek, Bobby V. noted "he beat up Alex," referring to the 2004 dustup between the two.

Then, while discussing his team's work on relays and cutoffs, he dared blast Jeter's famous flip in Game 2 of the 2001 American League Division Series against the A's.

"We'll never practice that," Valentine told reporters (via the Boston Herald). "I think [Jeter] was out of position. I think the ball gets [Jeremy Giambi] out if [Jeter] doesn't touch it, personally. That was amazing that he was there. I bet it's more amazing that he said he practiced it. I don't believe it."

Would the ball have gotten there in time without Jeter's help? Looking back on it, it may have been closer than I'd remembered. I'm still not sure it had enough juice to get there on its own.

I'm surprised while he's at it, he doesn't bring up that in the same game where Jeter made his famous diving catch in the stands in 2004, Pokey Reese made a similar, but superior, play earlier int he game. (If you don't remember, Reese's catch was similar, but he went further and made the catch closer to the wall -- he just lacked Jeter's theatrics and his team didn't win that game).

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Since: Dec 29, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:23 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Valentine didn't take a swipe at Tito, why does it say that? Shenanigans. Not that he minds, but  the Tito vs. Bobby thing didn't happen. 

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:21 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Ya know, I never heard Francona bad mouth anyone... never liked him, but felt he had class... Valentine should rise up and not trash mouth HOF candidates while they can still hurt him and his team on the field... Class is how you are measured in this sport and not trash talking players and teams... it will burn you in the end... betcha most of the Sox players do not appreciate it either...

Since: Sep 26, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:15 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Bobby Valentine's been around the game long enough, has seen enough, that I'm interested in anything he has to say about the game, or any of the players past, present, and trust his take on guys coming up. It's not like he's got a mouth on him like Ozzie Guieon(sp)...often vulgar, too raw for prime time. Yet he will speak from the lip... 

Not every manager gets to the series and wins...many stick around w/ .500 records til they decide to retire...If a player hits 300 for a career, he'll get some HoF noise...if a manager goes .500, he's a bum? 

Vallentine was a hugh hit in Japan where baseball is played in some parallel time space continuum to this Nation's Past Time, but with deeper national/social implications...and he was successful.

The BoSox quit last year when the writing was on the wall. He'll change that mindset and maybe field 9 guys who'll play to the last out each time they suit up. Been a Phillies fan since the early fifties so if the sox flop, no matter to me...but the late season news from that club house last year was a disappointment to me...and for any fan of the game I'm figurin'

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:11 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Sorry but Valentine just proved he is an idiot... perfect for the BoSox... the more you open your mouth the more you show your intelligence, in this case, the lack of intelligence... Valentine overall has a loosing record as a manager... the Jeter comment especially was totally wrong... total lack of respect and knowledge of what he is talking about... he should worry more about his present team of which the last 30 regular season games were classic... 

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:59 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Bobby V has an excellent baseball mind - and a great ability to express himself - infact, his ability to express himsellf is so awesome that it seem to be constantly on - even when his baseball mind has gone to sleep!
Bobby V. - smartest guy in the room - just ask him ... no, you don't need to ask - just wait ten minutes and he will tell you.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:54 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

Remember folks that Valentine is the same fool who thought it was a good idea to return to a dugout after getting tossed from a game wearing "Groucho" glasses and a fake mustache.

Maybe the fact that your teams would never practice a play like the one referred is just one of many reasons his clubs have never won it all. How many times have you heard an announcer say they have never seen that before when watching a ball game? Great teams prepare for the unexpected.

Valentine needs to worry more about the Blue Jays finishing ahead of the Sox than talking about plays from 8 years and more ago.

One losing trip to the World Series in a career doesn't make a manager great nor does a .510 winning percentage in 15 majopr league seasons. There are  reasons he couldn't get a job in the majors since 2002. After John Henry spent so much money on his UK football/soccer team this past winter hiring a loudmouth manager was all he could afford to do to improve his baseball club that has more than few holes to fill.

Since: Aug 11, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:46 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

A true winner never has the compulsion to take a swipe at his opponents.  Instead, he just allows his game to speak for itself.  As for Bobby V, he has a record that barely exceeds .500.  While it is certainly better than anything I have accomplished in my amateur sports career, it will not likely land him in the HOF.  On that basis, we can all see why he feels compelled to take a needless swipe at the Yanks.  But perhaps it will serve as a good motivator for his opponents.  Then, at the end of the season he will look back and feel sorry for himself.

Since: Jan 18, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:30 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

I'm starting to think this whole hire was a giant PR stunt.

Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:30 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

What do you expect from someone who has barely over a .500 record as a manager. He might as well yap his mouth, he can't manage.

Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:28 am

Bobby V. takes swipes at A-Rod, Jeter

How anyone can say anything remotely bad about Jeter is beyond me. The guy's only a sure fire first ballet HOF'er not to mention an ambassador for the entire game of baseball! The game would miss Jeter a whole hell of a lot more than Valentine! And I'm not even a Yankee fan! I love my Braves, but taking pot shots at someone with such an impecable record and a genuinely good guy is just crossing the line and Bobby should shut his mouth and worry about his own guys because they have a lot more work to do to prepare for the season than Jeter does.

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