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Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:59 pm
Edited on: March 6, 2012 9:00 pm

Cole Hamels
By Dayn Perry

The Phillies might be progressing toward a contract extension for lefty Cole Hamels. Or both sides might be locked in a holding pattern. The Sporting News takes the former position, while Ken Rosenthal of tweets that the latter is the case.  

Hamels, who's entering his walk year, will make $9.5 million for 2012, and, given his performance history and age (he won't turn 29 until December), he'll command a hefty contract on the market. The challenge for the Phillies is to lock him up before he gets there. 

On the other hand, while the Phillies are flush with revenues these days, they're also committed to more than $112 million in payroll spread across just 12 players for next season. As well, they're also faced with losing Shane Victorino after this season, and following the 2013 season Chase Utley and Hunter Pence are both eligible for free agency. In a related matter, it's quite possible that the Phillies are going to run up against the luxury tax threshold in the near future. That's surely going to be part of their calculus. 

Hamels's profile means he's likely going to command a contract of at least six years and at something north of $20 million per, unless, of course, the nebulous "hometown discount" comes into play. Are the Phillies willing to pay those rates and pony up for Victorino and take care of business with Utley and Pence when the time comes and perhaps pay the (luxury) tax man? Those are the difficult questions GM Ruben Amaro will soon be forced to answer. In all likelihood, everything starts with Hamels.

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Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 8, 2012 12:56 pm

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

Not necessarily. Cole Hamels gets booed regularly in Philadelphia and does not enjoy god-like status like Lee and Halladay even though he delivered a championship. He should be gold in this town and he's not. That could definitely play in his decision to remain in Philadelphia IMO. If the team wins a WS with Lee and Halladay, they will be revered forever. Not so with Cole Hamels.

Since: Sep 14, 2007
Posted on: March 7, 2012 3:29 pm

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

Lets not forget, this is the ace that brought a ring to Philly. Lee and Haladay may be better due to playing longer, but we only value championships here. Hammels is hands down the biggest single contributor to our 2008 championship run. Besides, does anyone in Philadelphia actualy care what the Phils payroll is? Not me.  Just bring me the championships and send the bill to the owners.

Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 1:20 pm
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Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 11:45 am

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

He deserves the money. Honestly guys like these are getting under payed. Ian Kennedy who was runner up for cy young and finished 21-4 isn't even making a million dollars. Phillies either pay Hamels or let him go somewhere where he will get payed fairly

soooooo you're saying somewhere like.... new york?  haha.  laughable.  the term "paid fairly" cracks me up.

Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: March 7, 2012 11:35 am

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

Utley's contact being up should bring cap relief.  Past his prime with bad knees deos not spell big contract.  Bottom line the Phillies need to start developing some younger playes to balance out the top heavy contracts of their "star" players.  There is only so long a team can hold on to three legitimate aces and still field a solid lineup.  Throw in the fact they overpaid for a closer and the GM likes handing out big fat contracts and at some point they will be backed into a corner financially.  Of course Blanton's 9 million will be history, and Utley's 16 the year after so there should be money available for both Hamels and Pence if they feel they are key pieces in a championship team.

Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: March 7, 2012 9:00 am

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

This will not be Cole Hamel's last season in Philadelphia. I'm confident they will work out a deal for him

Yes, that means that Shane Victorino, Placido Polanco, and Chase Utley are all nearing the end of their careers here. Chase might stay if a team friendly contract is possible - but if he wants a raise, he'll be gone. Shane and Placido are goners next season though, for certain. There's kjust no way to pay Shane what others will offer him.

Some of you talk about trading Cole Hamels, or Cliff Lee, or even Roy Halladay - it's not going to happen. If we trade ANY starter this year, it will be Shane.

Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 8:18 am

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

Cole Hamels signed a 1 year deal in January worth $15 million and not $9.5 million. Doesn't anyone get the facts straight anymore? This one year deal will be his last in Philadelphia.

Since: Oct 16, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 8:04 am

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

The Phillies right now at the rate they are spending money are treading in deep water.  At some point the Phillies have to look at getting younger and less-expensive talent.  The can't keep buying the top free agent flavor of the month to fill needs or to use as a band aid for an injured player.  Its time to prepare for the future.  The reason why they have been able to rival the Yankees and Red Sox in the free agent market over the past 4 years in strictly based on attendance.  If they fail to make the playoffs with a payroll hovering around $200 million then there will be a fire sale the following year and they wont get the return on the players as they would normally get in a sellers market.  You have to keep Cole Hamels because of his body of work and his age.  I would start looking at replacements for Chase Utley and Placido Polanco.  Lets face it, we made the playoffs the last 3 years with little to no production from both of them so why do they need to be replaced with top dollar studs?  Its time to give some of our minor league players a shot.  I would trade either Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay for some top tier major league ready prospects.

Since: Oct 1, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:13 am

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

On the other hand, there is no replacement for Hamels...none.  What about Cain or Kershaw or Lincecum?  Yea, OK, sure, but they are ALL going to get uber-bucks.  And I don't think any of them are as good as Hamels, and in terms of left-handers, there is no debate at all.  
Actually they are all better and the 3 CY's agree with me . You should stay up for the west coast games and become better informed .

Since: May 8, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 10:19 pm

Will the Phillies pay Cole Hamels?

The time has finally come when some people can question if the Phillies really needed Halladay and Lee. Sure, it gave them an automatic playoff spot last year, and they should have done better in the playoffs (and the same should be said for this year). However, when you commit 40 million to two pitchers (not to mention Howard, Utley, etc, etc), it becomes pretty tough to keep a team together. Pairing Lee with Halladay was an unbelievable get for the Phillies. But has that hampered their ability to keep Hamels? 

Personally if I'm Amaro, I'd trade Hamels mid-season for a King's Ransom, that would include a decent #3 starter. For example, look for a deal with a team like the Rays, Angels, or Rangers, who have a plethora of solid arms, and solid systems to draw from in the minors. I know it doesn't make any sense when the Phillies are looking to continue to compete, but they could get a decent arm to pitch the third or fourth game of a playoff series, restock the farm system (especially with a frontline talent like Hamels), and carry on without eventually fizzling out completely. 

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