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Giants respond to A's press release

Posted on: March 8, 2012 10:23 am
 


By Matt Snyder


The quasi-public fight between the A's and Giants has been advanced, this time from the Giants. Wednesday, we passed along a press release from the A's, where they seemed to be pleading for a shot in San Jose without outwardly saying as much.

The Giants have issued a statement in response, and they didn't pull any punches (especially when seeming to mock that the A's were bought for "just" $172 million). Here is the statement in full:
“The Commissioner has asked us to refrain from discussing the territorial rights issue publicly. Out of respect for his request, we will limit our response to setting the record straight on the history of territorial rights.

The Giants territorial rights were not granted “subject to” moving to Santa Clara County. Indeed, the A’s fail to mention that MLB’s 1990 territorial rights designation has been explicitly re-affirmed by Major League Baseball on four separate occasions. Most significantly in 1994, Major League Baseball conducted a comprehensive review and re-definition of each club’s territories. These designations explicitly provide that the Giants territory include Santa Clara, San Francisco, San Mateo, Monterey, Santa Cruz and Marin Counties and the A’s territory included Alameda and Contra Costa Counties.

The MLB owners unanimously approved those designated territories and memorialized them in the MLB Constitution. Since then, the MLB Constitution has been re-affirmed by the MLB owners – including by the A’s – on three different occasions (2000, 2005 and 2008), long after the Giants won approval to build AT&T Park. Mr. Wolff and Mr. Fisher agreed to these territorial designations and were fully aware of our territorial rights when they purchased the A’s for just $172 million in 2005.

The population of Santa Clara County alone represents 43% of our territory. Upon purchasing the team 20 years ago, our plan to revive the franchise relied heavily on targeting and solidifying our fan base in the largest and fastest growing county within our territory. Based on these Constitutionally-recognized territorial rights, the Giants invested hundreds of millions of dollars to save and stabilize the team for the Bay Area, built AT&T Park privately and has operated the franchise so that it can compete at the highest levels.”
This isn't going away any time soon. The A's need their stadium situation resolved and seem to desperately want San Jose. But the Giants hold territorial rights and aren't relenting. MLB has reportedly sided with the Giants thus far, but also seems to want to keep things under wraps. So the dance will continue.

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Posted on: March 20, 2012 10:43 am
 

Giants respond to A's press release

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Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 9:00 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

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Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 9:00 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

 I had a opportunity to watch my football team dominate an era and become a dynasty .


AWESOME!  Is the Joe Montana poster still hanging over your bead? 



Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 8:58 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

Every year ? I forgot , baseball started 5 years ago in philly .


Five years ago?  If you were old enough to see your 49ers Dynasty, you must not have been watching baseball too long.  Between 1976 and 1983, the Phillies won 5 division titles, played in two World Series, and won one of them.  They went to the 1993 World Series (as a one hit wonder Cinderella team...much like your 2010 Giants) and lost to the Toronto Blue Jays.  That seems like a little more than 5 years ago.

Second, Philadelphia used to have the A's if you want to go that far back in history.  Most Philadelphians followed the A's until they left for Kansas City in 1955, while the Phillies were always futile in the early days of baseball.  The A's had two dynasties, the first when the won three World Series in 1910, 1911, and 1913.  During the second, they won AL pennants in 1929, 1930, and 1931 while winning the World Series in 1929 and 1930.

Now let's talk about baseball history in San Francisco.  Since the Giants moved there from NY in 1957, they've been to the World Series four times to the Phillies 5 times and have won one World Series to the Phillies' two.  The Giants have won seven NL West titles to the Phillies'  eleven NL East titles.  In reality, baseball didn't begin in SF until Barry Bonds arrived and it didn't really take off until they won the World Series two years ago.

So before you go back and begin using New York Giants history and attempt to pass it off as San Francisco baseball history, please spare me the garbage.  I was born in 1975 and don't really care about the Phillies' futility in 1920, when there were 16 teams in baseball, only 2 divisions and the winner of those 2 divisions playing in the World Series.  One, it's a much different game than back then and two I wasn't alive to see any of those players/teams and I don't know anyone who was. 

To say baseball started in Philly five years ago is an asinine statement.  The Phillies are the oldest continuous, one name, one-city franchise in professional American sports dating back to 1883 and Philadelphia also had an A's team that dominated in the early years of the game.     



Since: Oct 1, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 5:50 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

ok, so here is an oakland a fan who will set the record strait!  pissy ass giants fans dont want the a's there because even without a better record or stadium, like those sf sissy's have, we have a stronger fan base and core... in sf, people go to the games because they have money to, most dont even like the sport... but in oakland, we love our team, good or bad, 1st or last... how many times have you been to a home or away game where "lets go oakland" is chanting down the halls... giants fans are weak, i compare them to angels fans... they care when the team is good, but watch the simpsons and desperate housewives when their team sucks...

to hell with the cry baby giants, LETS GO OAKLAND!!!!

 Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about . I imagine it because you arent even in the bay and arent around any Giants or A's fans.



Since: Oct 1, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 5:45 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

As far as the Phillies, you can't even compare them with the Giants.  The Phillies make the playoffs every year while the Giants flounder around 3rd or 4th place.  The Phillies pick up top end talent while the Giants scour the trash dump for everyone else's garbage.
Every year ? I forgot , baseball started 5 years ago in philly . 



Since: Oct 1, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 5:39 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

Wasn't this the first season that the 49ers made the playoffs in about 20 years?  I'll be more than happy to suffer through the Eagles making the playoffs every year, as opposed to the 49ers who haven't been a plyoff team since Steve Young retired.
Wrong and wrong . Also to compare a team with 5 superbowl championships to one with zero is just retarded . I had a opportunity to watch my football team dominate an era and become a dynasty . Have you ?



Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2012 3:10 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

And yet your forced to suffer through year after year of eagles football and watchig the phillies set the all time loss record day after day . You guys should have kept the better organization , the A's .



Wasn't this the first season that the 49ers made the playoffs in about 20 years?  I'll be more than happy to suffer through the Eagles making the playoffs every year, as opposed to the 49ers who haven't been a plyoff team since Steve Young retired.


As far as the Phillies, you can't even compare them with the Giants.  The Phillies make the playoffs every year while the Giants flounder around 3rd or 4th place.  The Phillies pick up top end talent while the Giants scour the trash dump for everyone else's garbage. 


Finally, how are the A's a better organization than the Phillies?  When was the last time the A's won a World Series?  When was the last time the A's were even relevant?  Were you looking at the records from 1921 when you made that asinine statement?        
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Since: Jun 20, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2012 1:21 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

ok, so here is an oakland a fan who will set the record strait!  pissy ass giants fans dont want the a's there because even without a better record or stadium, like those sf sissy's have, we have a stronger fan base and core... in sf, people go to the games because they have money to, most dont even like the sport... but in oakland, we love our team, good or bad, 1st or last... how many times have you been to a home or away game where "lets go oakland" is chanting down the halls... giants fans are weak, i compare them to angels fans... they care when the team is good, but watch the simpsons and desperate housewives when their team sucks...

to hell with the cry baby giants, LETS GO OAKLAND!!!!
 



Since: Jun 20, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2012 1:16 pm
 

Giants respond to A's press release

that is classic...



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