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What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Posted on: August 3, 2010 11:55 am
Edited on: August 3, 2010 12:12 pm
T. Jackson likely would take over for Minnesota if B. Favre retires (Getty). If, as is being reported all over the place (and on the Facts & Rumors blog), Brett Favre does retire – and there’s some healthy skepticism that he will, no matter what he says – what happens with the Vikings offense?

Obviously, they’ve still got some of the best young wide receivers in the game with Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin. WR Bernard Berrian is solid and dangerous as a deep threat. Those guys will make a mediocre quarterback look better than he actually is. And running backs? Two words: Adrian Peterson. Meanwhile, second-round pick Toby GerhartChester Taylor’s replacement – is a Doak Walker Award winner who will take a few of Peterson’s carries, especially when Minnesota needs a physical inside runner.

At the skill positions, there’s no question the Vikings have the talent to win the NFC championship. The quarterback position is … well ... a different story.

If Favre retires, they’ll have a couple problem areas. First, Minnesota doesn’t have the greatest run-blocking offensive line – which is a bit surprising, considering the talent the team has on this unit – and without Favre, the Vikings will need to run the ball more effectively to make up for the lack of Favre-ian like talent at the signal-caller position (more on this below).

Favre, at least in my opinion, is still a top-five quarterback , especially considering the season he had last year (68.4 completion percentage, 4,200 yards, 33 touchdowns, seven interceptions), and Minnesota would lose one of the most important players in the game.

So, who would replace him? Most likely, it’d be Tarvaris Jackson – an athletic quarterback who hasn’t figured out how to become a successful NFL quarterback. He started 12 games in 2007, and though the Vikings went 8-4, he wasn’t particularly impressive. His accuracy was mediocre, and his decision-making was questionable. If you’re comparing him to Favre, Jackson is more mobile but not nearly as strong in every other facet in the game.

If not Jackson, the team could turn to Sage Rosenfels. He’s never been a full-time starter, and there’s a pretty good reason for that. In fact, if Favre stays, Rosenfels might be on his way out of town, depending on how rookie Joe Webb is performing in practice. 

Rosenfels is often too aggressive, leading to too many avoidable interceptions. He’s the prototypical backup. He doesn’t look bad on the sidelines while wearing a ballcap. But if you have to throw him in as the starter, that’s not a great thing for your team. Webb, meanwhile, was slated to be a wide receiver, but he’s played well enough in practice for the Vikings to keep him with the quarterbacks. At this point, though, you certainly don’t want Webb starting games for your team.

If Favre doesn’t return, like he’s apparently saying right now, the Vikings wouldn’t face a disaster if Jackson was their man. But if it’s Rosenfels or Webb, there’s no way this team can make a deep run into the playoffs. For their sake, the Vikings have to hope this latest Favre news isn’t true. Otherwise, their Super Bowl hopes have just taken a huge hit.

--Josh Katzowitz

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Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2010 2:12 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

They will lose a lot. Plain and simple. It wouldn't have made any difference with McNabb in Minnesota. They would still lose. McNabb isn't anywhere close to Favre, and Tavaris Jackson isn't even in the same solar system. Now all the Favre naysayers will get their opportunity to see how good the Vikes really are without him. Personally, I'm happy to see Favre retire now. It's doubtful that he could repeat last year's performance, and would likely have been gimpy the entire season. Also, with Favre retiring, the Packers never get an opportunity to atone for their two humiliating defeats to the Vikes last year. The Packers have a very good team this year, and will likely go to the NFC title game vs. Dallas. They may even make it to the Super Bowl. However, regardless of their success, they will never be able to beat Brett Favre. That in itself makes it all worthwhile.Enjoy your retirement Brett. Don't even think about letting Green Bay get another shot at you.

Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2010 2:01 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

This is the Viking own fault - even if he was to come back the manis "40" and banged up, they should have addressed their QB problem before now. And this should serve as a wake up call to all of the NFL teams. the status of the QB(s) in the league is very poor. When you go pass P manning, Bree, and Brady there is a drop off the next group Rodger, Romo and maybe Schuab- but after that it takes a nose drop. And what about the backups Pityful jst pityful- think about this what happens if one of the big three goes down, look at what you have from P Maniing to Painter from Brady to I don't even know who backs his up from Bree to mayabe chase mcdaniel i think.

Since: Aug 18, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:53 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Jackson just isn't intellegent enough to be a NFL QB.  Without Farve I hope Rosenfels can mature into the position. 

Since: Nov 22, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:51 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Wow, a blog report about Farve without ranting and self-rightous indignation.  Good Job.  I think the Pennington post was insightful - but knowing the Vikings they won't be willing to pay the price.

We should all laugh at the posters (especially the graceless Vikings and spiteful Packers fans) who rant about how awful a person Farve is. Especially in the face of this past season, where he truely had a Pro-Bowl (near MVP) year at the age of 40.

What's next?  Well we can certainly count on some smear pieces from the usual CBS Sports columnists.  Counting down, 3...2....1...

Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:44 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Answer: The Vikings give up their chances for a super bowl unless they actively look for a quarterback that will WIN games. Not just NOT LOSE. Not saying that Jackson can't get a good team into the playoffs, he already did once. But there were games last year that MN does not win without Favre and his late-game heroics. On the same note however, there are games they lose if Favre doesnt have the fantastic year he had last year also. There are too many teams with good players at every position to think that the Vikings can win consistantly without a good QB. AP and the D can only do so much alone, and the young talented recievers cant do anything without a QB that can get them the ball. They don't need Peyton Manning, but they need better than the QB's they have. Remember, though Favre through the INT that cost them the game, the team fumbled five times, 3 on the saints side of the field. You need a QB that will overcome that, not just avoid making it worse

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:41 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

"Obviously, they’ve still got some of the best young wide receivers in the game with and . WR is solid and dangerous as a deep threat. Those guys will make a mediocre quarterback look better than he actually is."

What the hell are you smoking? What did Sidney do before Favre? What about Berrian? Sidney was widely regarded as a bust before his breakout year last year. How good did Tavaris Jackson make essentially the same receiving corps look the year before last? Sorry Vikings fans, but without Favre this team may BARELY make the playoffs and certainly wont go deep.

Since: Nov 11, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:38 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

The Vikes were 10-6 with Jackson/Rosenfells leading the team prior to Favre.  With more talent than the '08 team, I see no reason Minnesota won't win 11 games without Favre.  With the talent surrounding those guys, I'll bet whoever ends up leading the Vikes will look better than any of us thought they could look.

Since: Feb 28, 2007
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:36 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Even if its over, I enjoyed the short Favre era as a Vikings fan. He gets us to the SB if not for 6 fumbles, and it was the most entertaining season since '98.

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:29 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Here's the thing, in my opinion, the Vikings should have started 5-0 or 4-1 last year regardless of who was Quarterback.  Go back and look at their schedule.  The schedule was weak last year, and because of that, I wasn't the biggest proponent of Favre.  (Although that has more to do with him being a life long Packer)

Just looking at this years schedule compared to last years schedule, the team was going to take a hit in their record.  Again, in my opinion.  The Vikings had a great shot last year because they had home field advantage until the NFC Championship, and that was played indoors as well.  In fact, I think the Vikings really only played 1 true cold weather game last year.  With the tougher schedule, I don't think they would have quite had home field and "dome" field advantage this year like last year.  Favre was great last year, but he has proven over the last 4 years he can no longer hack cold weather games. 

So, while I was starting to look forward to Favre at QB this year to see if the team could recapture how well they played last year, I think the team should still make the playoffs at around 9-7 or 10-6 and I like anyone better at QB in a very cold situation.  (I know Favre was great in the cold weather for this first 14 or so years in the league, but not once he turned 35-36)  If Tarvaris Jackson can't cut it, we'll find out this year and get a new QB for 2011.  It had to happen at some time. 

This is a hit at the QB position, but I wouldn't throw the team out the window just yet. 

Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: August 3, 2010 1:19 pm

What happens to Minnesota without Favre?

Favre is just being Favre....a drama queen.  Chilly says he has not heard from him directly yet.  He just wants all the media to be about him, "will he?"  "won't he?"  Talk about a classless jerk holding the city and organization hostage while he dilly dallys making up his mind.  Season starts in a month donkey, make up your mind and lets get on with it.  UNREAL!

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