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Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Posted on: August 30, 2010 11:04 am
Edited on: August 30, 2010 11:05 am
 
Posted by Andy Benoit

Not surprisingly, Peyton Manning and Bill Polian are displeased -- perhaps even downright angry -- with the NFL’s new ball-spotting rule. Because umpires are now lining up in the backfield, it’s taking longer for them to spot the ball. And, after they spot the ball, they must run back to their spot some 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Consequently, the quarterback must look to the line judge to get a go-ahead to snap the ball. As we saw at Lambeau Field last Thursday night, this slows Indy’s hurry-up offense. B. Polian (US Presswire)

As usual, Sports Illustrated’s Peter King, in his most recent Monday Morning Quarterback Column, got great insight on the mess. Manning told King, "If we had this rule last year there's no way we catch up in that New England game. We were down, what, 21 points in the fourth quarter? We wouldn't have had enough time to run enough plays to catch up. But forget about that game. Let's chart all the comeback wins where a team runs the hurry-up in the fourth quarter. How many of those games would have ended up the same way -- or would the quarterbacks have had enough time to run enough plays to come back and win?''

Indy’s gripe also pertains to the snap infringement penalty (which they were flagged for twice against Green Bay). "I am dead-set against the penalty,'' Polian, who is on the Competition Committee, said. "It is insane. If I knew it would be this way, I'd have voted against it, and not only that, I'd have crusaded against it.''

It is believed that the NFL will try to fix the timing issues, though VP of officiating, Carl Johnson, doesn’t seem too creative at this point.

"The way the new mechanic of the umpire positioning is, I don't have a resolution to that,'' Johnson told King. "It's going to take a couple extra seconds to spot the ball. There's no way around that. But this is a work in progress. We're aggressively seeking ways to improve the mechanics.''

King bounces around several ideas for what the league can do to remedy the problem. A major obstacle is that the league has already acknowledged that the umpire was moved because of safety concerns. This significantly limits the possibility of simply moving the umpires back to his original spot. After all, if that were to happen, then not only would the league be saying it doesn’t care about the umpire’s safety, but it could also be liable if an umpire were to get seriously injured.

It’s safe to assume that when the apparently hasty decision to relocate the umpire was made, the NFL did not foresee having to deal with so many issues this close to the start of the regular season.

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Comments

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: August 30, 2010 11:06 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

I can understand how Manning feels.  Too bad Polian voted for it though without asking enough questions.



Since: Oct 28, 2006
Posted on: August 30, 2010 11:00 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

4th quarter comebacks mean just that.  4th Qtr.  Yes, I'm a Colts fan and have been since '63 but one of my greatest thrills was sitting with my kids at a restaurant in Salisbury, NC watching Reich lead the Bills past the OIlers.  Don't think that all happened in the  last 2 minutes.




Since: Oct 14, 2006
Posted on: August 30, 2010 9:54 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Thats a great idea....helmet and some kinda kevlar lightweight body armor... why didn't they think of that? 
A+++



Since: Aug 30, 2010
Posted on: August 30, 2010 9:33 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

There are new rules every year that all players need to adjust to; how many rule changes have there been to"'PROTECT THE QUARTERBACK" since Manning been in the league?

Stop crying Peyton and adjust and play football!!!



Since: Aug 15, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2010 9:14 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

RoyaleJester, I like the idea for clock management purposes, but for strategy purposes, stopping the clock for spotting the ball won't help.  It's all abou timing and tempo with the hurry up offense.  Even if the clock isn't ticking, it still throws off the play of that style of offense.  I liked the way it was before.  If the guys that are doing the toughest job of the referee crew weren't complaining, then the NFL made a huge mistake.  If those guys were voicing concerns over their safety though, then I'm good with being unhappy about a rule if they are safe.  It still doesn't make sense to go to the old way for the last two minutes though.  I mean, c'mon guys, is their safety important for 56 minutes of the game but not those 4 minutes?



Since: Jul 8, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2010 9:01 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Quick fix here, just stop the clock.  From the time the umpire grabs the ball and until he gets back into position the clock should stop (game clock, not play clock).  Will this make someone's life difficult who is keeping track of the time...you bet it is, but it helps the game move forward and keeps the ump safe.  I mean really can the time keeper just push a button to stop it and another to resume it?  Sure this doesn't help Peyton do a hurry up to catch a team off guard, but that's just something you'll have to get around.  Personally I hate to see a big play happen because someone fell down or wasn't even out on the field of play, I like to see a player get burned because of another players athleticism.  I mean imagine if in baseball the pitcher ran out to the mound and just started throwing strikes before the batter game up...he might be out before he got to the box.  What if in basketball the team that called the time out finished early and took the ball out while the other team was still drawing up a play?  



Since: Nov 25, 2009
Posted on: August 30, 2010 8:33 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

I'm going to say that I really dislike this rule.  I don't mind improving the safety for referees though.  30, 40, 50, 60 or 70... it doesn't matter when you get bowled over by some of the biggest and best athletes the world has ever seen.  Slap a stripped helmet on them, give em some stripped pads and be done with it (and don't worry, you'll still be able to see Ed Hochuli's biceps).   Any team can run a hurry up offense, it just happens that the Colts dedicate a lot of their practice time to running it so they can be effective at it in game situations. 




Since: Apr 12, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2010 8:19 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Posted on: August 30, 2010 12:44 pmScore: 164 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

How is the back judge going to get "creamed on a screen pass"? I wasn't aware the quarterback usually throws the ball 10 yards backwards.
The rule doesn't eliminate 4th quarter comebacks like the other person said either. Inside of two minutes they go back to their old position. The Colts haven't got a whole lot to complain about here. They used to take advantage of a flawed system. Now, its harder to prevent the other team from making substitutions. So instead of complaining, why not go out there and prove your players are better than their substitutes? Is it really that hard for the greatest quarterback the world has ever seen to beat second string corners



ITS BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE, THE UMPIRE IS NOW IN THE BACKFIELD 10 YARDS BEHIND THE LINE, WHEN HE USED TO BE ON THE DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE 10 YARDS OFF OF THE LINE.  APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T READ OR DON'T KNOW FOOTBALL. SO I PUT THIS IN CAPS SO YOU MIGHT GET IT THIS TIME.  YOU SEE THEY USED TO USE THE "UMPIRE" AS A SCREEN ON DEFENDERS ON MANY ROUTES, AND NOW THEY CAN'T BECAUSE HE IS IN THE BACKFIELD.  ONCE AGAIN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BACK JUDGE WHO STILL IS BEHIND THE LINE.  GOT IT?  PROBABLY NOT!



Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: August 30, 2010 8:10 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Sounds like a built in excuse for why Peyton will fail yet again to win the Superbowl with a superior team. What did the umpire have to do with Peyton throwing a Superbowl ending pick 6?
Didnt Peyton Manning win a superbowl 4 years ago and this rule just started this year so what does that have to do with last years superbowl?  Read the article first you dope.



Since: Jan 22, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2010 7:41 pm
 

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

The answer to this is very simple. Remove the Umpire from spotting the ball and have a line judge spot the ball and whistle the play to start. This is so simple even a 5th grader could come up with the answer.


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