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Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Posted on: August 30, 2010 11:04 am
Edited on: August 30, 2010 11:05 am
Posted by Andy Benoit

Not surprisingly, Peyton Manning and Bill Polian are displeased -- perhaps even downright angry -- with the NFL’s new ball-spotting rule. Because umpires are now lining up in the backfield, it’s taking longer for them to spot the ball. And, after they spot the ball, they must run back to their spot some 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Consequently, the quarterback must look to the line judge to get a go-ahead to snap the ball. As we saw at Lambeau Field last Thursday night, this slows Indy’s hurry-up offense. B. Polian (US Presswire)

As usual, Sports Illustrated’s Peter King, in his most recent Monday Morning Quarterback Column, got great insight on the mess. Manning told King, "If we had this rule last year there's no way we catch up in that New England game. We were down, what, 21 points in the fourth quarter? We wouldn't have had enough time to run enough plays to catch up. But forget about that game. Let's chart all the comeback wins where a team runs the hurry-up in the fourth quarter. How many of those games would have ended up the same way -- or would the quarterbacks have had enough time to run enough plays to come back and win?''

Indy’s gripe also pertains to the snap infringement penalty (which they were flagged for twice against Green Bay). "I am dead-set against the penalty,'' Polian, who is on the Competition Committee, said. "It is insane. If I knew it would be this way, I'd have voted against it, and not only that, I'd have crusaded against it.''

It is believed that the NFL will try to fix the timing issues, though VP of officiating, Carl Johnson, doesn’t seem too creative at this point.

"The way the new mechanic of the umpire positioning is, I don't have a resolution to that,'' Johnson told King. "It's going to take a couple extra seconds to spot the ball. There's no way around that. But this is a work in progress. We're aggressively seeking ways to improve the mechanics.''

King bounces around several ideas for what the league can do to remedy the problem. A major obstacle is that the league has already acknowledged that the umpire was moved because of safety concerns. This significantly limits the possibility of simply moving the umpires back to his original spot. After all, if that were to happen, then not only would the league be saying it doesn’t care about the umpire’s safety, but it could also be liable if an umpire were to get seriously injured.

It’s safe to assume that when the apparently hasty decision to relocate the umpire was made, the NFL did not foresee having to deal with so many issues this close to the start of the regular season.

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Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: August 30, 2010 4:15 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

 I wasn't aware the quarterback usually throws the ball 10 yards backwards
Because they don't, but they do drop back 10 yards to make the pass.  Yep, they drop back right to where the zebra is.  Fail.  The apologists for bad and slow offenses are out in full force.

Since: Dec 3, 2009
Posted on: August 30, 2010 4:13 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

You got that right IronCity27. Everyone knew Peyton would cry about this. He cites the hurry up offense as being hurt by this rule. It's not the hurry up offense when most of your plays are designed for this. He should quit crying.

Another tidbit: during the Packer-Colt game there was a stat thrown out there that last year there were 5 SURGERIES for refs that either got hit in inexcusable croosing routes or from the QB zinging in a 65 mph ball to the head/chest. That does not include all the other injuries refs endured. I am not a fan of all the blown calls they make, but it's not fair the put an unpadded/helmeted man that is usually older than the players out in the middle of the action who also make a crap load less per play than the players. I think it's much easier to move out of the way of a 300lb DE moving about 20 mph than a small pointy brown ball at 65-75 mph.

Just my opinion.

Since: Jul 28, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2010 4:09 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

If Manning were to molest a coed in the bathroom would he be more respected in your eyes?  Or would one more Super Bowl ring make everything he did okay like with Big Ben.

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: August 30, 2010 4:02 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

I can see why they're so upset.  Those two spoiled brats, Manning and Polian, are used to being able to whine to the league and get the rules changed, the way they did after the 2004 AFC Championship game.

Since: Jun 1, 2007
Posted on: August 30, 2010 3:46 pm

Follow what college does

Why not stop the clock after a first down until the ball is set just like college? Then everyone is safe and Manning isn't whinning about screwing up his timing. To me it seemed like he was doing it to prove a point on Thursday and I guess it worked. I know the stopping the clock after a first down might seem unfair to the defense especially because the offense would be able to move and have the clock stop at first downs, but I think it would work out just fine.

Since: Jul 18, 2007
Posted on: August 30, 2010 3:44 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

because again unlike Ben, Payton has a clue.

Yes, and unlike PEyton, Ben also has TWO SUPERBOWL RINGS and better career playoff numbers

Since: May 22, 2010
Posted on: August 30, 2010 3:10 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Manning and Polian are BOZOS...GO STEELERS..Peyton will choke it up this season
just like he did with the pick 6 vs the saints

Since: Feb 17, 2009
Posted on: August 30, 2010 3:08 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

I didn't say anything about you or any other clown on here electing anything. Referees elect thier union reps just like everyone else (often -not always clowns- a retired member) and they do what best serves thier personal interests just like all union reps and every elected official in history.
As for the announcers, every time they open thier mouths they are stating thier personal opinion which misrepresents anyone they have not talked to personally. I gaurantee that a very minute number of today's big time announcers have talked personally to a player in weeks. It's all second, third or more hand brought to them by college interns and Tony Cornhieser.

Since: Apr 30, 2007
Posted on: August 30, 2010 3:05 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Yeah Manning and Polian, stop your crying.

Their reply:

But it effects every team that wants to run the nu huddle offense.

My reply:

You ain't better than me

I am a dumba$$, are you?

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2010 2:59 pm

Manning, Polian detest new ball-spotting rules

Payton can call plays from the line because again unlike Ben, Payton has a clue. That’s Indy’s entire game play and with the new rule it makes them have to pretty much start from scratch and learn the game all over again, hence the reason they are so upset about it.

Not really...they do not have to "learn the game all over again" as the Colts can still call the plays from the line just like they do now.  The only difference is a quick glance to the linesman for the signal that the umpire is in place -- an extra 2 seconds or so on most plays.  I understand why the Colts do not like it, but it is just a couple seconds which will not make that much difference in their game and certainly will not require them to "start from scratch and learn the game all over again".  The rule is not perfect, at least not the implementation of it, but it is not the end of the world for the Colts, especially if Manning and the rest of the team are as good as every seems to think (and I, btw, agree that Manning is a very very gifted and intelligent QB -- I'm not ragging on the Colts here).

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