jbartdavis, again you appear clueless as to how a few words from you say so much about what you believe.

Unlike steam and bill, who as God's spokesmen on earth tell others their fate, you wish to turn you back on fairness and justice for others on earth because of their thoughts that your god does nor exist.

As to your 1st post let me make it as simple as possible. If the views of someone who does not believe as you are to be have no weight, that is the first sign of religious intolerance. Even the lack of belief in God or Allah is a choice given to the by your god. Never have I read that God forces humans to believe.

As to your simple points, lets go back to

1.That your seek to impose your beliefs on others. This is not some "world view" but the view of the found fathers of this country.
 You should read the papers of Thomas Payne and then come back.

2. You state that your belief that ideas of right , wrong , justice (ect) can only come from God. Yet democracy is idea from the greeks and runs counter to the bible. So you can understand: king of kings. Yet, for some foolish dogmatic reason, you try to claim I am making some statement about if God is there. Go back and read again. Just as the ignorant label Darwin (a man of god in mind and deed, by his own words) as a non-believer, thus you seek to tar me. At least get your billions right and know something of what you condemn.

3. no "higher standard" is needed for fairness or justice. And truth is just that: truth. Fairness is not always the way of god in the bible. Or should you not know of the brother who stole the rightful hiers place but was yet a favorite of God. Or King David. And "the rest of the world"? Now you speak for the world.

4. Justice can only be judged by man on earth (for deeds on earth) and man does not know the mind of god. While this concept is in the bible, man can only judge for this earth. If you believe in God, then you must understand God made Doubting Thomas and Judas I. to serve his will and purpose and without them playing their given roles Jesus could not move to his next steps. Yet, you seek to condemn the doubters of this age.  You can only know the purpose you feel you should serve with God, and not with his wish for others.

5. World view? Again with that slight attemp at a slur. In the USA you are free to think what you wish. But in the bible, are you free to condemn or is that reserved for God? Again not your place. To say that you are right can only be be right for you. You have no clue of the purpose in life any god has for any person. Yes, you are very narrow minded.

6. Still clueless. But as a bigot toward those who believe differently, does not all bigotry stand as one. One can't find racial jokes wrong but polish jokes fair game. Don't know how the Georgia bigot got into this but I, for one, find any use of that word by any one of any race or color wrong.

7. I also find excluding you a step too far. Just because you do fit the definition of dogmatism does not mean you could not learn. Learn to not judge from the afterlife you have not reached. And to judge from there? That will always be the right of God and never yours.

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Pimpslapped,

I thought you were through with this thread? You didn't want to waste anymore time on the "dummies"? To Bill's point, you are really the only one on here spreading hate and intolerance, the virtues you hold in such esteem. For example, your continuing reliance on ad hominem attacks to promote whatever it is you are arguing speaks to a blatant amateurism (see post where you ridicule my "anthem to Christ", which obviously you didn't read; See following response to Bill where he made statements in which he was nor more declaratory or matter of fact than you have been throughout this thread: "Nor am I going to pretend to be an expert on history as you seem to think you are"). 

Your insistance that God is a myth and your hostility and arrogance towards anyone who believes is the exact representation of the fanaticism and intolerance you credit to all religious institutions (and apparently anyone who believes in a supernatural power in the universe).


"It isn't veiled in supernatural powers, sacred books, imaginary hierarchy of higher beings and powers, and sacred laws that people must live by to avoid eternal punishment. Politics are tangible and in most cases transparent, religion is veiled in smoke and imagination based on fear to govern a fledgeling early society."

Not to say that some religions do not focus primarily on the adherence to sacred laws to avoid eternal punishment, mine does not. Your lumping all things religious together in such a way is another fallacious line of thinking on your part. You may as well say that all political regimes commit genocide because Nazi Germany did.