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Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

Posted on: October 13, 2010 11:51 am
Edited on: October 13, 2010 12:17 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

Michael Vick gives the Philadelphia Eagles the best chance to beat the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, if he's healthy (there's also the whole "redemption" thing with his old team). But it's looking like there's a good chance he won't take the field.

Andy Reid told the media that Vick is "still recovering" and that he's done "no throwing yet," via the Eagles' official Twitter account.

Adam Caplan also reports that it's "doubtful" that Vick plays -- given his practice status at this point in the week, that seems like a safe bet.

The Philly news cycle didn't get any better when Reid alerted the media that Jason Peters, the team's left tackle, would have surgery this week for a torn meniscus and would miss the week.

And to top it off, LeSean McCoy hasn't practiced yet, because he's still sore, although he's expected to play.

All of this news puts a pretty heavy burden on Kevin Kolb, who looked relatively strong (compared to previous outings) against the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday, as well as an already banged-up and vulnerable to the run (they rank 24th in the league in yards allowed per game) Philadelphia defense.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 7:50 am
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery




Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 3, 2011 5:40 pm
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

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Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: October 17, 2010 11:03 pm
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

And trust me...if it came down to my dog vs you or Vick I would not want to be in your or Vicks shoes.
 
And you can trust me when I say that if I ever put myself in a situation that involved you and your dog, you won't have to worry about much of anything any more.  No sense in doing anything halfway when you're wrong.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2010 10:03 am
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

Sorry, I called Fran Tarkenton "Steve"....I actually went to school with a Steve Tarkenton many, many years ago.  I do that sometimes, mix and match names.  I too have seen all these guys play. and have no idea what that other guy is seeing.  I guess. by his definition, any QB that moves, ever, is a running QB.  Dan Marino must have been a running QB to then.

Favre has rushed 591 times in his career for 1835 yards (3.1 per carry average)...now that may seem a lot, but when you figure out that he has started 293 games, that comes out to 2.02 times...let me spell that out....two point zero two....lets say 2 times a game....32 times a year.  That's his definition of a running QB? 

Heck, Michael Vick did that much last year as a backup.  Vick in his career, 579 attempts, 4141 yards (7.2 average) in 90 games....still say Favre is a running QB? 

Big Ben averages 3.1 yards per carry and 2.65 attempts per game....also not a running QB.

Young comes close, as I aluded to....but every expert says he is a throw first type of guy...not a running QB.  He was just one of the best at scrambling when all passing lanes were shut down.  He averaged 4.25 runs per game.  Now his numbers are similar to Tarkentons, and by todays standards (and the standards of Young's time) he would NOT be a running QB, but you have to look at the era as well.  Todays QBs DO run more.  During Tarks time they were statues.  And none before or during his time had his success.

Cunningham averaged almost 5 carries per game, but if you take away the last 46 games (last 6 seasons - mostly as backup) of his 161 game career, after 2 devastating leg injuries, when he became a pocket (albeit, mostly unsuccessful) QB, he averaged 5.75 carries per game.  His best season he gained 942 yards...half of what Favre gained in his (to date) 20 year career.

So I may concede that ONE of the THREE you mentioned ran at times, experts don't consider him a running QB.  And judging by your inclusion of Big Ben and Brett Favre in YOUR definition of a running QB, you are no expert.




Since: Jan 21, 2007
Posted on: October 15, 2010 8:48 am
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

Young wasn't a running QB in your eyes?  Young was THE definition of a running QB, maybe you never got to see him play.  Young was able to beat teams with his arm OR legs, and that's why San Francisco was winning in the early 90's. 

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Are you kidding me?  Young was a passing QB who could scramble a bit.  One of the best ever at it.  But nobody ever refers to him as a running QB.  And Big Ben and Favre are statues compared to running QBs like Cunningham and FRAN Tarkenton (who called him Steve???). 

Phillykid, I DID see all of these guys play, and I can honestly say you don't know football if you believe what you wrote.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2010 8:45 am
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

Well, when I listen to Ron Jaworski or Ray Didinger speak and they talk about the lack of success of running QBs historically in this league, they never refer to Roethlesberger or Favre as running QBs.  I have heard them speak about Young and both have said that although he was a very mobile QB he was not, in their opinion, a running QB.  Since I doubt you have the same pedigree as those 2 when it comes to football knowledge, I will say that you are wrong. 

Just because a QB can scramble once in awhile and gain some yards, it does not mean that they are running QBs.  I mean, did you see Kolb run 19 yards on the 3rd and 18 last week?  Does that mean he is a running QB? 

Didn't think so.  Just because you thought it doesn't mean its true.  You are wrong....still.


Phillykid413
Since: Apr 18, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2010 8:14 pm
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Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2010 4:36 pm
 

Vick 'still recovering;' Peters to have surgery

None of those 3 were running QBs....a running QB would be a Steve Tarkenton, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb (in his prime), Steve McNair, or Michael Vick.

The guys you mentioned could scramble, and break off the occasional run, but I have never heard of anybody call them running QBs.  Young is the closest thing to it, but he was much more than a running QB.


Phillykid413
Since: Apr 18, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2010 1:35 pm
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Phillykid413
Since: Apr 18, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2010 1:21 pm
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