Blog Entry

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Posted on: December 14, 2010 3:31 pm
Edited on: December 15, 2010 3:43 pm
 

Posted by Andy Benoit

UPDATE 3:42 p.m. ET: Turns out Zach Thomas was right: the Jets assistant coaches were indeed instructed to form a wall along the sideline. And we’ve found out who gave that order: Sal Alosi. As in, the Sal Alosi who tripped Nolan Carroll. The Jets have now made Alosi’s season-long suspension an indefinite suspension. His future with the franchise is bleak at this point.



There are some whS. Alosi o believe that the Jets assistant coaches, including Sal Alosi, were under orders to crowd the sideline on the play in which Dolphins gunner Nolan Carroll was tripped. Count former Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas among the believers.

"They had to be ordered to stand there because they're foot to foot," Thomas told Tim Graham of ESPN.com. "There's four of them, side to side -- five of them, I mean -- on the edge of the coach's zone. They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner, who is Nolan Carroll.

"But there's more to it because I'm telling you, the only thing [Alosi] did wrong was intentionally put that knee out there. If he just stood there, there would never have been a problem, even if the guy got tripped. But there's more to this. He was ordered to stand there. No one is foot to foot on the sideline in the coach's box."

Thomas makes a very valid point. And if the coaches were indeed ordered to stand there, that could explain what prompted Alosi to do what he did. (Not saying Alosi was instructed to trip Carroll, but the very idea of crowding Carroll’s space could have subtly encouraged him to take things a step too far.)

If the assistants were instructed to stand shoe-to-shoe, then who gave them the order? Rex Ryan has already said it wasn’t him. Tuesday, special teams coach Mike Westhoff issued a statement saying, “Number one, I did not instruct anyone. Number two, I was not aware. With all of the people on the sidelines, it would be inconsequential and I would not be involved in any way, shape or form.”

For more NFL news, rumors and analysis, follow @cbssportsnfl on Twitter and subscribe to our RSS Feed

Comments

Since: Sep 3, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 10:01 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

c'mon it's the jets would you expect anything different?


RonBoss2
Since: May 19, 2010
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:57 am
This comment has been removed.

Post Deleted by Administrator




Since: Jan 11, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:57 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Alosi should have been charged with assault.  Can you imagine if a fan would have tripped a player during a play?  What's the difference between a fan or an inactive player or coach interfering with a player during a live play?  The only reason he wasn't fired is because the jets told him to stand there.



Since: Aug 3, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:30 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

While it wasn't right for him to trip the player he has the right to be there and if you want to get picky if the player was on the playing field where he was supposed to be there wouldn't have been contact. The gunners routinely get pushed out of bounds but they are also supposed to get back onto the playing field not just cruise down the sideline to keep from getting hit actually it unsportman like conduct penalty to deliberately run down the sideline out of bounds.

I am in no means supporting what happened but there often is 2 sides to a story and I don't think  the Jets are the only team that has people lined up in those type positions inside the coaches box no conspiracy just common practice, doing what can be done leagally to help your team. Alosi was in a postion that he was allowed to be in and unfortunately made a bad decision to trip a player.



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:29 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

When I first saw this, my first thought was that Sal should be fired.  It looked ridiculous....  Then I saw a poll that ESPN did that asked what should happen to him and every state other than 1 said he should be fired.  I started thinking about it more and Sal got penalized alot more than a player would have if he would have done the same thing.  What if it was Mark Sanchez standing there and he stuck a knee out?  Would the Jets fans or any other fan be asking for him to LOSE HIS JOB?  Sal isn't quite as important as Mark Sanchez so he can be thrown to the wolves and made an example of.  I find this ruling ridiculous now that I think about it more.  Regardless of who the player was, they would not have been suspended for the remainder of the season and docked 25% possibly of their pay.  Yes, what he did was stupid, but if you don't think they were ordered to stand there, then you probably believe Cam Newton had no idea what his dad was doing too.  Anyways, just my thoughts on the matter........




Since: Apr 13, 2007
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:11 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

That was good.

This is actually an easy fix. Going forward, the gunner is going to be taught to completely rail head first right into anyone standing that close to the sideline. In baseball when a runner is trying to break up a double play, guess what the middle infielder is trained to do? Throw it right at his head....guess what the runner does? Get's the hell down or veers off and real REAL fast.  Let that jack ass Alosi stand there again. Light his ass up once and we'll see how mnay other padless, helmet less "strength guys" stand that close on punts.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:07 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

For christ sake people. Turn the effing page. This has nothing to do with the Patriots or Spygate. You people are OCD. You see a topic associated with a figure or situation from a prior event and all of a sudden it's time to debate history. What? Michael Vick is an MVP candidate? Lets debate his prison sentence, his crimes, his prior performances, how you feel about it, and write novels about it every time you see his name. Etc, etc, ad nausea. As for this small, inconsequential event, people act on their own volition all the time. This guy, and the other assistants, were meatheads, and they do what meatheads do. Carry out stupid acts. Lets not turn a guy's poor decision making and overzeallousness into an organizational conspiracy. It had no effect on the game, no one was hurt, he was caught and punished, end of story.



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 15, 2010 8:38 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

This situation sounds all too familiar ...
You want answers?
I think I'm entitled to them.
You want answers?
I want the truth!
Did you order the code red?
I did the job you sent me to do.
Did you order the code red?
You're goddamn right I did!!



Since: Nov 27, 2010
Posted on: December 15, 2010 8:24 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

It is very curious after looking at the picture why these 5 coaches are standing toe to toe. Can't say I've ever seen that, I think Zach Thomas makes a very valid point.   Cool



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2010 7:52 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

And for all you Patriots fans who think now that him and the team were fined he has all of a sudden just stopped doing something this scumbag has been doing since he joined the Patriots, your wrong, he's still doing it and will indeed be caught again someday

So, just out of curiosity, do you KNOW this, or are you some blow-hard, douchebag, Dolphins fan running off at the mouth?

First of all, the league made it a rule because everyone was doing it. Doing what, you ask? Taping from the sidelines during a game. Yup, during the game the Pats were taping the Jets defensive signals, not pregame walkthroughs, not practices, not BEFORE the game. It was something that was NFL wide, which is why the NFL made a rule about it. Did the Pats continue to do it? Evidently, because they got fined for it. They paid the penalty, which was pretty stout actually, and it's over. But not for you. Why not for you?

Because the Patriots continue to beat the Dolphins over, and over, and over, and over. The Dolphins have won one division title in 10 years, probably more, and it hurts. Your favorite NFL team is kind of like the Toronto Blue Jays at this point. They'll win a little something once every 20 or 30 years, and that's about it. It hurts so bad you can't let go. I understand, trust me. I still have some hate in my heart for the Bears because of '85. In hockey I can't stand Edmonton because of those Bruins teams that lost to the Gretzky led Oiler squads. I really can't stand the Mets... Remember Bill Buckner? So I understand where you're coming from. You hate the Patriots because they beat up on your little Miami Dolphins.

So, BobC54, I'll tell you the same thing I told that other douche: If you want to have an intelligent conversation about something and back it up with facts, instead of wild accusations, I'm all in. If you want to just throw stuff out there because you're a jackwagon, I've got no more time for you.


The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or CBSSports.com