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Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Posted on: December 14, 2010 3:31 pm
Edited on: December 15, 2010 3:43 pm
 

Posted by Andy Benoit

UPDATE 3:42 p.m. ET: Turns out Zach Thomas was right: the Jets assistant coaches were indeed instructed to form a wall along the sideline. And we’ve found out who gave that order: Sal Alosi. As in, the Sal Alosi who tripped Nolan Carroll. The Jets have now made Alosi’s season-long suspension an indefinite suspension. His future with the franchise is bleak at this point.



There are some whS. Alosi o believe that the Jets assistant coaches, including Sal Alosi, were under orders to crowd the sideline on the play in which Dolphins gunner Nolan Carroll was tripped. Count former Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas among the believers.

"They had to be ordered to stand there because they're foot to foot," Thomas told Tim Graham of ESPN.com. "There's four of them, side to side -- five of them, I mean -- on the edge of the coach's zone. They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner, who is Nolan Carroll.

"But there's more to it because I'm telling you, the only thing [Alosi] did wrong was intentionally put that knee out there. If he just stood there, there would never have been a problem, even if the guy got tripped. But there's more to this. He was ordered to stand there. No one is foot to foot on the sideline in the coach's box."

Thomas makes a very valid point. And if the coaches were indeed ordered to stand there, that could explain what prompted Alosi to do what he did. (Not saying Alosi was instructed to trip Carroll, but the very idea of crowding Carroll’s space could have subtly encouraged him to take things a step too far.)

If the assistants were instructed to stand shoe-to-shoe, then who gave them the order? Rex Ryan has already said it wasn’t him. Tuesday, special teams coach Mike Westhoff issued a statement saying, “Number one, I did not instruct anyone. Number two, I was not aware. With all of the people on the sidelines, it would be inconsequential and I would not be involved in any way, shape or form.”

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Since: Feb 12, 2007
Posted on: December 15, 2010 12:14 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Any team from New York have no ethics at all. That BIG FAT PIG RYAN most probably told him to do this. Now the freaking Jets are going toget beaten down by the Steelers. What a wonderful feeling that will be. You will not make it to the Superbowl you freaking MORONS. So far it has been a good week with Lee snubbing those Yankees. I was so overjoyed. Way to go Phils. Screw you all New York teams.



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 12:13 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

This is a joke. First they said that Alosi tripped the guy with his foot...and now it's his knees. Next we will be reading about how Alosi gave the guy a flying elbow and then threw a chair at him. This isn't the WWE....but I wish it was. The NFL is boring. It needs more excitement. Who's with me?



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2010 12:04 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

I have to tell you all, I am peeing my pants with laughter listening to any Pats fan call another Franchise cheaters. Wow! That is the funniest thing in a long, long, very long time! LMAO

Spygate was 2007, this is 2010 and the torch has been passed. You know why you bring up the Patriots? Because they've been the dominant team for the last 10 years, and continue to be so. The only fans in the NFL who can put up a legitimate argument to that are Colts and Steelers fans.  Anybody else is just deluding themselves.

See, people bring up spygate, and "Cheatriots" and 18-1 because the Pats were, are, and continue to be a contender. They're relevant. You know why this will all blow over for the Jets? Because they're nothing anymore. They're just like their coach, they're loudmouth bullies who, over the last two weeks, got punched in the mouth and had no answer. They're irrelevant. The Jets mean nothing for the reast of the season, even if they make the playoffs. Just like the taping scandal in Denver became a non issue because of the irrelevancy of the Broncos. If this were the Steelers, the Colts, or the Patriots, this would be the thing for the rest of the season, through the playoffs, and into next season. You know why? Because those teams matter, even the treading water Colts still matter.

You think anybody cares for more than two weeks if the Texans did this? How about the Seahawks? Right, and the Jets are in that same category.



Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 12:02 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Somone should finally man up as they say.  Most likely Rex Ryan set this up, then hides the truth.

Mr. Belichick would admit it and explain his error.  Not sit around in his office while some guy he hired, loses his moneys for being on his poorly run staff.  You don't set your guys up like that and then play the denial game.  Somebody named Rex certainly gave them this idea.



Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 12:02 am
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Somone should finally man up as they say.  Most likely Rex Ryan set this up, then hides the truth.

Mr. Belichick would admit it and explain his error.  Not sit around in his office while some guy he hired, loses his moneys for being on his poorly run staff.  You don't set your guys up like that and then play the denial game.  Somebody named Rex certainly gave them this idea.



Since: Jan 5, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2010 11:41 pm
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

The Jets are punks.  Lost all respect for them.  What a drag to the NFL.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2010 11:40 pm
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

I've been wondering the same thing.  How far behind the out of bounds line do the personnel not on the field need to stand?  The coaches were at least a full yard out of bounds, so the Dolphin player was running at least a yard out of bounds down the sideline.  How far out of bounds are players allowed to run?

It reminds me of my neighbor who lived on a corner lot in a neighborhood where high school students used to cut through to go to school.  During the winter, they would still take the corner at 35-40 mph even though the speed limit was 25 mph, and they would slide across the snowy slippery street into his yard.  I told him he should put in a few poles on the corner, it would protect his yard and damage the cars of drivers who decided to take the corner at high speed despite the waether conditions.  Eventually they would slow down.

I think most of these posters would argue that the snow pushed them "out of bounds" into the yard and they should not be held accountable for driving on and damaging the yard.  If players are allowed to run down the field out of bounds, then that is fine, but there has to be some point where the coaches are allowed to stand, and where the players are too far off the field to run.  If it is not defined, perhaps the NFL should make some rules governing this behavior.  If it is defined, then enforce the rules.  The coach and player should not be allowed to occupy the same space out of bounds.

To the posters who are afraid of the Dolphin player getting hurt, have they ever played or watched a football game or have a basic understanding of what abuse a player's body goes through during a game?  Touching another player slightly and losing balance happens many many times per game, with 22 players running and hitting each other, it is inevitable.  The collisions that occur on purpose are much worse than the incidental contact collisions.  The odds of the player being injured would have been much higher if he had tried running down the field in bounds and had made the tackle.




Since: Oct 19, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2010 11:02 pm
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

Okay, I don't think you are even worthy of a -751 score for your moronic attempt at a comment and actual intelligent sentences.  I believe that Alosi got what he deserved for sticking the knee out and running the risk of injuring a player. But maybe next time Miami might tell its gunners to actually run down there IN the field of play. Repeatedly making that trip moslty out of bounds, which they did quite often and got caught for once, is bush league. But they should not have to worry about getting triped by coaches on the sidelines, but now  bet they'll think twice and get back in bounds sooner.....



Since: Jul 13, 2010
Posted on: December 14, 2010 10:57 pm
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

There once was a coach named Alosi, that had the class of Pelosi, so for a fee, he extended his knee, and almost ended a football player's career. He should be banned for life.



Since: Sep 29, 2010
Posted on: December 14, 2010 10:37 pm
 

Why Sal Alosi was even in position to trip

What do think about this.  Jets lose next 2.  Miami wins next 2, New England rests starters week 17, miami beats them to beat out the Jets for final playoff birth.  Wouldn't that be sweet.



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