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'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

Posted on: January 2, 2011 11:53 pm
Edited on: January 2, 2011 11:56 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

First of all, hats off to the Seattle Seahawks for showing up on Sunday night and beating St. Louis. They're 7-9, but they're the NFC West champions and they're going to the playoffs.

No one can take that away from them.

But someone (like, say Roger Goodell) can stop people from being forced to watch a team with a losing record host a home playoff game ever again. And it needs to happen as soon as the final whistle for the Super Bowl blows, because, frankly, it's embarrassing that the Saints will travel to Seattle next week.

I'm actually not staunchly opposed to the idea that if you win your division, you get in the playoffs. Andy and I have argued at length over this during pretty much every podcast since it became apparent someone was going to limp into the playoffs with a terrible record out of the NFC West. And, for me at least, the whole "it's cyclical" explanation works fine.

Every team -- except for the 49ers -- in this putrid division has been in a Super Bowl at least once over the last decade, and San Francisco has more than enough historical success to make up for their recent terrible play.

It's also clear that the Cardinals are a quarterback away from not being horrible, and you could say the same for the Niners. The Rams could dominate the division once they find some actual playmakers who have hands, and the Seahawks, well, heck, they already won their division title.

So let's not go and blow things up and simply take the top-six teams in each conference, because that defeats the entire purpose of having divisions.

But it's absolutely imperative that the NFL determine some manner to re-seed the playoffs beginning in the next season. There's no possible way to say that the Seahawks are better than either the Packers or Saints, and yet New Orleans, who didn't fall short of the No. 1 overall NFC seed, actually has to travel to Seattle on a short week to play in front of a rowdy crowd.

Could the Seahawks win? Sure. It's the NFL and anyone can win. But that doesn't mean that seeding teams in a blatantly inaccurate manner based on an antiquated notion that winning your division equals a home game is the way keep going.

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Since: Jan 3, 2011
Posted on: January 3, 2011 1:30 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

I said the same thing on the 'hawks beating the Rams thread: This is the first time its ever happened! Stop acting like its the bubonic plague Will Brinson, you are obviously some East Coast biased, wannabe sportswriter that can't stand to see a West Coast team going to the playoffs. The Saints could have won their division, but came up short. The 'hawks will take it any way they can. Honestly, I almost wish they hadn't won so they secured a top ten draft pick, but regardless of that - it happened. Get over it. The system isn't "broke," it is fair and this is a bizarre occurrence that more likely than not, never will occur again. You can then come out of your little bomb shelter and live to see your green pastures, unicorns running around with fairies, rainbows and whatever else makes you comfortable, like all teams having a 14-2 record qualifying for the playoffs. Your fear-mongering and pot stirring is just sad, grow up. We know that the Seahawks are a lousy team. They have had, in my opinion, one quality win this year (road win against the Bears). If the Saints can't duplicate their earlier success against SEA this week, then they weren't going all the way anyways. Would it be more fair for them to go to Philly this week and not SEA? They do have a better record then the Eagles, so is that fair? If I'm a Saints fan I'm glad we are playing the Seahawks this week, even if its going to be at a rowdy stadium across the country. Much better to have them and not the #1 offense in the NFL.

Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 1:18 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

Forget about winning the division or reseading. There should be a rule that you have to at least be a .500 team to make the playoffs. In this case the Seahawks would not make the playoffs and the Giants would due to the fact that the hawks had a losing record. Will this ever happen? No. Because of money of course. Plus. how often will this ever happen? Not many times i'm guessing. But there should be a clause that says you have to at least have a .500 record to make the play offs. Seems simple enough. That's why it won't happen.

Since: Jan 3, 2011
Posted on: January 3, 2011 1:07 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

I dont understand what all the fuss is about. Yes, the Seahawks won a playoff birth and will host a home game. Do they deserve it? Unfortunately, YES they do because they won their division. I am not saying that I like the fact that they are in the playoffs at 7-9 but it is what it is.

There are Saints fans crying and whining everywhere on this site!!! The Saints didnt win their division, correct? So no matter what, they would have to be the visiting team somewhere. Who better to be playing in the first round of the playoffs than a 7-9 team?? If the "Champion Saints" are as great as everyone says they are they should have no problem winning. If the Seahawks happen to win that game than it is obvious that they earned their spot.. Quit crying and let's watch some football!

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 12:54 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

I'm sorry but I would rather let a team that won its division host a playoff game than give a bye to a team that failed to win its division.

Under what you are suggesting the Saints would be the second seed and get a bye. I have a problem with that. The reward of a bye should go to a team that actually won something say I don't know thier own division.

I admit I don't really like the idea of the Seahawks getting a home playoff game but I completely hate the idea of rewarding a non-divison winner with a bye.

Since: Dec 25, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 12:42 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

MY God. This is the 1st time it happened- yes its that rare and all of a sudden people want to change the system. Give it up. It has happened once. Consider it an aberration and move on. 

 Too bad the networks don't realize that when it comes to the Saints winning the Superbowl last year. It's pretty old watching all those visa commercials. It's over and time to move on. I hope the Seahawks find a way to win.

Since: May 5, 2009
Posted on: January 3, 2011 12:39 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

Why is it not fair play the games. win the games. realignment was needed  you win enough in you division your in.stop whining

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 12:15 pm

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

Why is it that when anyone nowadays wants to make an argument, whether it be political, philosophical, or whatever, they always throw in something about how the current setup is "antiquated," "outdated," or "outmoded?" Is it to make them seem like some sort of progressive person, as if being traditional in any way is wrong? And in this case, it's not even about being traditional, it's about not over-reacting to something that has just happened for the first ever in the history of the NFL. Calm down, take a step back, and re-evaluate when you're thinking a bit more clearly, instead of giving in to emotions. That's something everyone in this country should start doing.

Since: Nov 20, 2007
Posted on: January 3, 2011 11:58 am

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

MY God. This is the 1st time it happened- yes its that rare and all of a sudden people want to change the system. Give it up. It has happened once. Consider it an aberration and move on. Some people feel jaded their team didnt get in. Well next year strength of schedules will be a lot diff for Seattle. Rams etc we will see if they improve or if the NFC West sucks again. My guess is the Rams are on the cusp of being a good team just a little inexperienced. They bring in a good WR and a TE that can pass block and catch and they are going to be good. Their defense is decent and improving and thier offensive line was finally stable.

Since: Sep 23, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2011 11:44 am

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

Look.. The Hawks won their division.. They deserve a home playoff game.. I don't care if the Saints won 11 games.. They had 6 division games and didn't get it done... This is the NFl it's cyclical year by byear...

If your going to give a game to a "Wild Card" team just cause they won more games.. Abolish the divisions and set-up 16 team conferences, take the Top 6 teams and go from there...

Like it or not the Seahawks are "Division Champions" and as far as I'm concerned that means something.. A "Wild Card" doesn't...

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2011 11:22 am

'Hawks give NFL good reason to fix playoff seeds

AK, you make a great point about the Colts, KC and Philly. (Actually your point about Philly is true as well because Green Bay beat them earleir this year and have the same record.)  If the system is tinkered with to fix the "Seatlle Situation" it opens a whole can of worms. It is what it is. This is reminisicant of the arguments about the bubble teams in the NCAA Basketball tournament. Sometimes you just can't fix everything. The Giants blew a big 4th qtr. lead against Philly, the Bucs lost at home to Detroit, (yes I know the Lions are much improved, but still...) The teams that fell short had a season worth of chances to get in. They didn't. It is cyclical, the West will rise again.

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