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Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Posted on: January 10, 2011 3:34 pm
Edited on: January 10, 2011 4:11 pm
Posted by Andy Benoit

UPDATE 4:10 p.m. ET: Pro Football Talk has gone back and put our a major disclaimer on this story. Here is PFT's Mike Florio explaining. Judge the story for yourself:

Appearing on one of the station’s other shows, Fescoe explained that he received two text messages from patrons of a pizza shop that Weis supposedly frequents.  (Fescoe refused to name because he didn’t want to give the place “free advertising.”)  According to the persons who sent Fescoe text messages, Weis was openly stating in the unnamed pizza place that the play-calling duties had been yanked from him at halftime.

Fescoe didn’t hear it from Weis, but from two folks who texted him to say that Weis was saying it.  And Fescoe then went with it without getting a comment from Weis or from the Chiefs.

When Sunday’s Chiefs-Ravens game kicked off,T. Haley (US Presswire) Charlie Weis knew he might very well be calling plays in Kansas City for the last time. What he probably didn’t know was that the last time would last less than three quarters. Bob Fescoe of 610 Sports in Kansas City reports (via Pro Football Talk) that Haley stripped Weis of the play-calling duties during the second half of the game.

This news is significant for a variety of reasons, none of which shine a flattering light on Haley. For starters, since when is an offensive coordinator -- a multi-Super Bowl-winning offensive coordinator, no less – relieved of play-calling duties DURING a playoff game?

Second, it is now far less believable that Weis chose to take the Florida offensive coordinator job strictly for family and lifestyle reasons. Prior to the season, many doubted that Haley, known for having a big ego, would be able to resist marking up Weiss’ offense with his fingerprints. When the pressure was on, that proved to be the case.

What does this say about the chemistry of Kansas City’s coaching staff moving forward? And what top offensive assistant will want to go work for Haley?

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Since: Jan 10, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:59 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

If Weis is really immature enough to bash Haley in a pizza parlor to anyone who will listen, then I think I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to Haley regarding their conflicts.

Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:48 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

We'll see how it all shakes out in the next few days.  I would expect Weis to react that way (assuming the Pizzagate Papers are reliable) even if Haley had assumed control of the offense for some of the plays.

Obviously there are problems there.  Haley wouldn't be the first coach to start his career as a major d!ck but then chill out and become a top-level coach.  Of course, he wouldn't be the first coach to start out as a major d!ck, get fired, and then disappear into obscurity....

Since: Jan 10, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:20 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Ha ha now we see the disclaimer.

Since: Nov 20, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:16 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

While I would agree that 610 Sports Talk has a HUGE axe to grind, I would NOT be drinking the Todd Haley Red Kool-Aid just yet.  There were a LOT of plays called (or seemingly called if the execution was THAT bad) yesterday, and in the past few games that are just not in Charlie Weis' fingerprint of Offensive play calling.  There is just a lot of HUGE ego mashing going on in KC....HUGE props to the Chiefs players for putting together a nice season considering.

Since: Jan 10, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:12 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Sorry I meant to add. We KNOW that Haley didn't call all the plays in the second half because you can see him walking behind the players, talking to the defense, and he never has the play sheet in his hand. So we know at least part of this is false. But of course CBS, NBC, and everyone is still running with it because it's a juicy story.

Lol at the idea of Haley's job being in jeopardy after the biggest turnaround in team history. And don't say it was all on the schedule. No one else in our division had 10 wins, and they all got to play the NFC West too.

Since: Jan 10, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:09 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Here's your "source" for this earth-shattering story, some texts from a pizza place:

610 Sports' Bob Fescoe: "I received a text from someone up in the Northland, and I received another one from someone this morning that was in the same pizza shop, not Pizza Shoppe, but a pizza location up there in the Northland......They both said Charlie Weis was up there telling anybody who would listen that Todd Haley took second half play calling duties away from him in the second half yesterday."

This from a source who also reported that Charlie Weis didn't come to the Chiefs locker room after the game, then retracted it.

Ground-breaking high-integrity journalism CBS. I don't care if you call this section NFL Truth and Rumors. People believe things as fact whent they see a name like CBS attached. The internet echo-chamber can be pretty ugly, thanks for helping it along.

Since: Nov 20, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2011 4:06 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Does anyone know if Weis was on the 2:30 pm flight from Kansas City to Gainesville??  That is EXACTLY what I would have done if I was in Weis' shoes.  Haley's ego is writing checks his position as Chiefs Head Coach isn't going to be able to cash, plain and simple.  If Haley doesn't get this figured out soon, he is going to go the way of Josh McDaniels in Denver and probably by the end of the next NFL season.....whenever THAT may be.

Since: Jan 10, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2011 3:55 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Give me a break. 610 Sports is more biased against the Chiefs than Whitlock, and Frescoe is notorious for getting things wrong - like pretty much always. Right after the game he reported that Weis never even came the locker room, then retracted it. 610 has been calling Eric Berry a bust since before the season started, and only just recently shut up about it. Seriously they had him written off after 2 games.

Plenty of fans on the Chiefs message boards are talking about how they personally saw Haley talking to defensive players during the second half, and doing other things that made it pretty obvious he wasn't calling all the plays.

Here's some tweets that just came in from Whitlock:

Quote: WhitlockJason

Talk radio n KC crazy. Ease up on buying "Weis stripped of play-calling duties in 2nd half." May have happened. But need credible sourcing.

Sensitive inside info on Chiefs: Glazer, Schefter, Mort, PKing, Lombardi... Trust the big-time names. Locally Bill Maas has insight.

KC talk radio is place that reported Missouri to Big Ten. Hosts consistently make up stuff. PROCEED WITH CAUTION They're already backing away. Pretty bad when even Whitlock is throwing you under the bus.

610 has had their panties stuch in a bunch every since 810 got the exclusive Chiefs access. The were in a full-blown screaming panic before this year about the Chiefs draft, every single personnel move, Haley's incompetence, Pioli's ego, etc. It's absolutely killed them to see us do so well and they're finally getting to release some of that pent up frustration at being so dead wrong on so many things (just like Whitlock).

Seriously they are notorious for bashing every single Chiefs move. Their mission in life is to get ratings through controversy. They're like the Fox News of KC sports news, if the Chiefs were Obama. It wouldn't be remotely surprising to me if they just made that up. Lol at the idea of calling for Haley's head at the end of the article. That should show you where they live on the realism spectrum. Think NY Post. Just like Whitlock ending his with "I don't care if Todd Haley wins the Super Bowl, he is not an NFL head coach". Agenda much?

Not that we don't have questions and issues. But based on improvement from last year and the year before, I'm willing to keep giving Pioli and Haley the benefit of the doubt and see what kind of improvements/progress they make next year.

Here's Haley on that play:

Quote: Obviously in the third quarter we were sitting there, in their end, with a fourth down. We were a little worried about the field goal there, we went for it, which I don’t have a problem with. It just was not a well-executed, well-conceived play, just probably what started to turn the game into the situation we ended up in. So either Weis made that play, or he's copping to making a pretty big mistake in the playcall. I can live with a young head coach making mistakes if he's willing to admit them and presumably not make them again.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2011 3:50 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Kansas City had a good season in spite of Haley, not because of him. He coaches like he's playing Madden in exhibition mode. Never pass up a game-tying score to go for it when you are losing late in a playoff game. That was absurd.

Since: May 5, 2010
Posted on: January 10, 2011 3:50 pm

Haley reportedly stripped Weis of play-calling

Haley = classless

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