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2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

Posted on: February 5, 2011 9:15 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Invariably, whenever there's a group of people inducted into a professional sports league's Hall of Fame, there's a group of people who got snubbed. And that's the case with the 2011 NFL Hall of Fame class.

That's not to take away from the group of men that got inducted: Deion Sanders, Marshall Faulk, Shannon Sharpe, Ed Sabol, Chris Hanburger and Les Richer comprise a pretty tremendous class.

But there are still some pretty big names who didn't make the cut and probably deserved better. (Quickly: the good news is that next year's Hall class is substantially less qualified than this year, making things easier on nominees.)

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Curtis Martin, RB, NE/NYJ: Martin fell victim to the the positional abundance that Andy mentioned earlier -- he, Jerome Bettis and Marshall Faulk comprise a ridiculous group of running backs for one Hall class, particularly when it comes to first-time nominees.

Martin's the fourth all-time leading rusher in NFL history, ranks 12th in rushing touchdowns, third in total touches, 11th in all-purpose yards, eighth in yards from scrimmage, 19th in total touchdowns, third in rushing attempts, 11th in rushing yards per game, went to five Pro Bowls, was an All-Pro in 2004 and by all accounts is a hell of a nice guy. Maybe even too nice -- it's often believed that Martin's quiet personality cost him some fame as well as cache with non-regional voters. The good news is that he made the cut to the final 10 this year, and appears to be receiving a surprisingly strong groundswell of support from voters.

Willie Roaf, OT, NO/KC: Roaf might have been the biggest snub of the entire year, if only because he didn't make the cut from 15 to 10. It's not like he was an 11-time Pro Bowler, a six-time first-team All Pro, a three-time second-time All Pro and a member of BOTH the 1990's All-Decade Team and the 2000's All-Decade Team or anything. Oh, and that was in only 13 years, so there's that. Look, it's tough to make a cut from 15 to 10 (and even tougher from 10 to five, of course), and it's really difficult to gauge an offensive lineman's value, especially in this class. But it's just kind of tough to find a reason why Roaf wouldn't make it further.

Cris Carter, WR, MIN: You could probably make a case for including all of Carter, Tim Brown and Andre Reed here. They were all dominant receivers, but that turned out to be problematic, because the three candidates split the vote amongst themselves according to numerous voters.

Carter's rankings are pretty solid though: he ranks fourth in NFL history in receiving touchdowns, third in receptions, eighth in receiving yards, he made eight Pro Bowls and and was a two-time All Pro. But so are Reed's (he ranks 10th in total receptions, 11th in receiving yards and 12th in receiving TDs) and Brown's (fourth in receptions, sixth in receiving TDs, fourth in receiving yards, fifth in punt return yards and fourth in punt return yards). Setting a standard by which we can measure Hall of Fame receivers is only becoming tougher as the NFL becomes more and more tilted towards a passing league. The lack of Hall votes for these guys emphasizes that.

Jerome Bettis, RB, PIT: The Bus also falls into the positional disparity problem, because, well his stats don't lie: fifth all-time in touches, fourth all-time in rushing attempts, fifth all-time in rushing yards, 10th all-time in rushing yards, six Pro Bowls, two All Pro teams and a Super Bowl in his hometown. (Which counts for something, I think.)

But Bettis didn't even make it to the final cut, and that's a shame. Even if he's going to "get in at some point" or if he's "part of a tough RB class," he and Martin are pretty clearly two of the all-time greats when it comes to running backs in NFL history.

They just happened to be entering the Hall of Fame with a guy who was more dominant in Faulk. And even though there's no crime in getting the current class of guys in now, it's still tough to fathom how some of the guys listed above piled up the numbers they did without the recognition.

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Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2011 8:20 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

So Martin, Roaf, Carter and Bettis were snubbed which means you think they should have been voted in.  Which of the 7 inductees would you have left out?  Actually it not 7 because I think at least one of them was the old timers nominee and none of your four would have been up for that spot.

There are rules that limit the number of guys elected each year so it is obvious that some will get left out.  Its easy to say that this guy or that guy should get in but whose place would they take?  

I agree that those four guys are HOF material but if you can't, or more likely are not willing to, say that they are more deserving than any of the others who did get in don't tell me they were snubbed.  They will get in eventually but who will you consider the snubbed players when they do?  I'm sure there will be an article on that as well.

Since: Nov 20, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2011 8:00 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

Hey Windy City - if CC was a "d-bag" & there4 doesn't deserve to be in the HOF (despite being on the record as quitting drugs & helping numerous kids & other athletes do the same...), then how do you explain Deion Sanders being in? Using your logic, "d-bags" don't deserve it. So, how come Deion is in? He's not a "d-bag"???  Back to CC, I suppose being in the top 10 in receptions and TD's doesn't qualify a player to be in the HOF, because, in your all-knowing opinion, he's a "d-bag".

You are either an idiot, or you're about 11 years old.

Since: Jul 18, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2011 7:36 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

Sorry, but in my opinion the biggest snub of this year's class is Jerome Bettis. Like Curtis Martin, he's one of those players that make your jaw drop when you see his final career numbers because it never really dawned on us WHILE he was playing. If you evaluate his career strictly by the numbers you'd have to include him as one of the greatest RB's ever(for the record...I would not) and he definitely deserves to be in the Hall.

Since: Apr 4, 2010
Posted on: February 6, 2011 7:34 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

C'mon Brinson, Curtis Martin? LOL...

Terrel Davis comes before Curtis "I'd rather watch paint dry." Martin.

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: February 6, 2011 6:56 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

He tested positive for cocaine in both 87 and 88.

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2011 3:25 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

I'm not L.T. apologist but he never had the drug problems until AFTER his career was over.
Also let's not forget that up until he came into the league there had NEVER been a player like him in the league, he completely changed the OLB position and truly was the first defensive player that opposing teams HAD to game plan for.
THAT is why he was a HOF'er and a first ballot one at that.
There's nothing that says a player who has a drug problem outside of steroids & PED's of course, and after his career no less doesn't deserve HOF status.

Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2011 3:08 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

Willie Roaf was a tackle. He does deserve to be in the hall. Just remember to check the position before you go off.

Since: Aug 16, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2011 2:35 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

They need to change the procedures and have a players category and a contributors (broadcasters, writers, etc.)  Thus, Sabol gets in as a contributor and Haley or Martin or Dawson get that 7th spot as a player.  Although, I'm not even certain that limit of seven makes a lot of sense.  Certainly, it would be a very long induction ceremony if you had to sit through 10 induction speaches!!!

Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: February 6, 2011 1:57 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

I think most of the people who post here are a lot younger than me (of course, almost everybody is a lot younger than me!), but those who remember the 1960's will probably be stunned to learn that Jerry Kramer is not in the HOF.  I don't think any of this year's snubs are nearly as outrageous as that.

Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2011 1:55 am

2011 NFL Hall of Fame class: Who got snubbed?

Why all this talk about Cris Carter needing to get in?  The guy was a complete d-bag.  If he gets in then Andre Reed should get in.  AR wasn't a jag like CC and he went to 4 super bowls.  What did CC ever do? He's was a possesion reciever and still a d-bag.

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