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Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

Posted on: February 22, 2011 11:25 am

Posted by Andy Benoit

Another day, another mediated labor negotiating session for the NFL. It’s now Day 5 in these sessions. Daniel Kaplan of the Sports Business Journal says he’s told ownership will be represented for the first time in these past five days. Thus far, only the NFLPA and NFL execs have been at the tables.

The ownership side does not mean the owners themselves. Albert Breer of NFL Network pointed out that Redskins front office exec Bruce Allen, for example, was seen walking through the door. Kaplan says no owners will be in the room.

What this all means is difficult to say. Some interpret the ownership side entering the discussion as “progress”. But others could say, Wait, we’re on Day Five and the owners themselves still aren’t in the room!? It’s possible the big issues – such as that $1 billion they’re quibbling over – still haven’t been broached.

Thus far the two sides have been good about keeping their discussions under wraps (though NFLPA PR rep George Atallah did do a live Ustream Q and A yesterday). That makes for better negotiating for the players and owners, but cloudier reporting for the media and fans.

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Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: February 23, 2011 3:32 am

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

  Democrats always talk about pro-choice in abortion, but when it's pro-choice in choosing to be part of a labor union or not, they want you to shut-up....This is also true in education, where schools will only improve once all students have the choice where they want to attend via private or public schools...
  Unions have to be broken as they are, in order to build them back up to a more logical position of influence....This is also true in sports where players are EACH wanting to make $30 million dollars a year...Those unions can all jump in the lake as far as I'm concerned....If you can play for ONE million a year, you should be dancing in the streets, instead we have to feel sorry for players that make multi-million a year contracts---I don't think so...
  The owners realize that if they don't reel in the reigns, their profits will indeed start going down, as the fans can no longer afford these rediculous ticket prices to see overpaid dolts play sports....

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 11:44 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

GO Steelers you are EXACTLY RIGHT.

You have but to look at the current unrest to know it.

DEREGULATION allowed Wall Street to ROB the nation of the Pension Gaines in the Market in 2008 and NOW States have a budget crisis in funding the money and the now BLAME the Unions for having the benifits and not the loss of the Pension base that was stolen due to the Deregulation.  Amazing.

Now they are trying to cut the benifits.  Not saying some of  the Benifits were not excessive and could not be looked at, but THAT is what Collective Barginning is all about.

FAIR is FAIR.   But without any'll find out just what Benifits you dont have.

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 11:44 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

Unions will be the death of America as we know it. They cost more jobs than they provide.

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 11:40 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

PATHFiner  Nonsense.

Unions 100% Belong whereever workers want to have one. It is Absurd and UnAmerican to say otherwise.

Look at the advances the Players have made for the game since there has been a Union. Look at ALL the Sports and see.

The Bottom line is this:  No matter what the industry....if you don't have the ability to bargin collectively with your fellows you will be run over. Period.

HISTORY is the Judge of this. 

WHY in the HELL would I want 32 Billionares to become "BIGGER" Billionares by exploiting Players to Play a game that the Public wants to see the "PLAYERS PLAY"?   Are you Insane?   What possible purpose would that serve?  Why do they deserve the money more than the Players?  They don't even pay for their Stadiums any more! 

Americans can be so silly sometimes.  The Thought of someone having something YOU DONT plays a HUGE Roll in this.  In a truely FREE MARKET...these players would make even MORE!

Go to ALL the Leagues and see how many Millionares where made Before Unions vs After.  Enough Said.

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 11:30 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

No Maux I'm 58 years old.   Yes, I was educated in the "public school system" like 88% of ALL Americans at the time.  I also have a BS and two Masters Degrees. 

No my dad was NOT a Union Member...he worked for about 40 years in the fields of Charleston South Carolina with no Union for support or protection from the system of the Jim Crow South.  YES I have a spell checker but don't feel the need to use it here.

YES Labor Unions DID Create the US Middle Class....figuratively speaking.

What economists call the “income distribution” in this country is, from a middle-class perspective, as bad as it has been since the years leading up to the Great Depression and this has been the results of Corporate Cronieism practiced mostly by the Right with a few moderates being bought off in the mix.  This can be tracked DIRECTLY to the Decline of American Unions and the advent of so-called "Free Trade" deals that have not been "FAIR" to the American worker forcing them into competition with foreign labor with no work or enviornmental standards. 

The 40 hour work week.  Overtime. Weekends. Pensions. Sick Leave. Womens Fair Pay.  People of Color and Works with Disablities
acts.   Higher Wages.  Higher Safety. Paid Hollidays. Greater Job Security.  Paid Vacations Family Medical Leave.  Severence pay.

The preceding benefits were brought to you by the working women and men of America's unions, who won them at the bargaining table and set the standard for all working families

Since it seems you in NO WAY could offer any rebuttal to my point.....I don't know where to begin to refute your lack of a rebuttal.  Lets just suffice to say one of us here knows what he's talking about and one does not.  Good grief man INDEED!  

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 11:03 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

The players already have complete medical coverage, as I'm sure their families do as well, and salaries that range from six to eight figures. This is no place for a union. This is a place to take your paycheck and STFU.
How do you think they got all that stuff? The union. If the Union went away most of that stuff would too. The Union isn't the one threatening the season, it's the owners threatening the season. Both sides make a lot of money, one side wants more, of course the other side is going to say "uh, no thanks". Hopefully it will work itself out soon.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 10:51 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

Anybody who says they're entirely anti-union doesn't know their history. The labor conditions during the industrial revolution were atrocious, migrant workers were hired and fired on a whim, there was no job security, there was no workmans compensation, and the conditions were absolutely atrocious. If you think unions are a completely bad thing, read "The Jungle" and it'll shed a little insight into your past for you.

Having said that, anybody who thinks unions belong in an endeavor where the workers rule the roost and the owners are subject to the whims of their employees are absolutely ridiculous. The NFLPA and it's players union have entirely too much control over the NFL product and, just as owners, agents and players like to remind us during ANY contract negotiation, the NFL is a business.

The players already have complete medical coverage, as I'm sure their families do as well, and salaries that range from six to eight figures. This is no place for a union. This is a place to take your paycheck and STFU.

Since: Apr 16, 2009
Posted on: February 22, 2011 10:26 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

LMAO - You don't have to be a "right winger" to know that Unions DID NOT build the middle class....that is right out of the 50year old Unions playbook. Unions BUILT NOTHING, Companys and Small Business owners built the middle class. Name me one, just one product a Union built unrealted to a company they sucked life out of, like oh say GM. I was born and raised a JFK Democrat (remember JFK the Democrat that tried to break up Unions). I look at this mess and see a bunch of over-paid people trying to get more to play a GAME that they LOVE playing. 80 Percent of the Wealth in this Country was created by NON-UNION SMALL BUSINESS and owners taking a risk. Why don't you just give the Unions credit for writing the founding documents, problably built the Great Wall of China as well, or the Pyramids. ""Egyptian Pyramid Builders Local BC01"".

Since: Dec 20, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2011 10:04 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

Simple as this everybody needs to get paid. I realize this but on the other hand how much is enough. Maybe they should both take a pay cut and lower ticket prices, food price, retail prices, and beer prices and make it more affordable for the average american to attend a football game. I love the game and watch every game I can but as an average american who works his butt off to pay his bills and feed his family how much is enough.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:52 pm

Labor negotiations see some changes on Day 5

SonnyBono....are you sixteen years old? Were you educated in the public school system? Was your daddy a union member? And do you have a spell checker? Labor unions didn't create the middle class, comrade. Good grief man, get a clue. Try putting down the X-Box controller, removing the iPod earphones from your head, and putting down your can of Bud Light long enough to read a book.

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