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Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

Posted on: February 26, 2011 5:31 pm
Edited on: February 26, 2011 5:40 pm
 
Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith (Getty) Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Even after seven days of negotiations with those representing the NFL owners and with another session scheduled for Tuesday, the NFLPA today raised the ante in the labor fight.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen are reporting that the players union, assuming there’s no progress in reaching a new CBA, plans to decertify the NFLPA on Thursday, which would preempt the owners’ ability to lock out the players.

According to Schefter and Mortensen, the union couldn’t decertify for six months if the current CBA expires, so from that aspect, it makes perfect sense why the union would make this move BEFORE the CBA is finished March 3.

A decertification also means that the NFLPA would no longer be a union, meaning the National Labor Relations Board would hold no sway over the NFL players. The owners, who have already claimed that the expected decertification meant the NFLPA was not bargaining in good faith, would challenge the decertification – which has been in the works for the past several months as each team unanimously voted for it during the season.

Decertifying also allows the players to file an injunction to keep the owners from locking them out, as well as allowing them to file an anti-trust suit against them (the latter of which could be the make-or-break moment in this labor standoff).

This was an expected leverage move by the NFLPA, and it’s not surprising in the least. But for anybody who thought the owners and the players were close to an agreement with the current CBA about to expire – though I doubt you could find ANYBODY who actually believed that – this should dispel that notion pretty quickly.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 10:25 pm
 

Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

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Since: Mar 1, 2007
Posted on: March 7, 2011 9:44 pm
 

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Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

  I love football and support the players in most things, but they get paid a lot. There is no rational reason that any owner of any company should make less than any of their employees.


Find me a player that makes more than his owner. If you do, then you will have a valid point here. If it's such a big thing for the owners to have a lower percentage of the pie, then why did they sign the previous cba?


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nbsp; Hundreds of players make more than the owners. The Detroit Lions have lost money in 3 of the last four seasons. The Miami Dolphins lost 7.7 million last year (because they stunk at home) so every player on that team, the practice roster, and even guys they let go made more money than the owners.

     The Giants made only 2.1 million, so most of the team made more than the owners. There were 3 other teams who made under $15 million, which means there are probably 200 players who made more than the owners of there teams. BUT, did any of those Dolphins give any money back to at least break even? NO, they didn't. And they were right not to. But, they didn't do their jobs, so the team lost money and the owner took the hit, because it is the owners company. When the company does well again, they will get a lion's share of the profit (or at least should) and the players will continue to do well. The players want it both ways. The team does poorly, pay me; if the team does well, I want more. SORRY, that's not the way life is for anybody else, so it sure as shyte shouldn't be for a bunch of football players.

  I have made my valid point, 2xcityofchamps. If you don't take my word (which you shouldn't; you should do your own due diligence), just look it upin the Forbes Magazine, which happens to know a little bit about money.



Since: Nov 7, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2011 11:12 pm
 

Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

Ryan clark brought up a good point in all this. Many fans on here, (myself included) has labeled this a matter of millioners vs billioners. That however only stands for a small percentage of the players. The majority of the players make less than a million per year. These guys will be the ones suffering from any long term lockout. Pro bowl standout lamar woodley only made 500k last year. He's due for a big raise (10 million) if the season ever gets going.



Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 7:13 pm
 

Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

And yes, the players (and I guess greedy agents as well) are to blame.  90%/10% -- basically the players are the problem.  A rookie salary cap is a no-brainer...  even better just a agreed base salary for rookies and the first five years with no negotiations, up front bonuses (seasonal recognition bonuuses, sure).  No stupid free agency...  messes up all four major sports, screws over fans/cities, and disrupts/dilutes/pollutes the game.  Lower salaray cap...  mandate owners take the difference and benfit communities, lower tickets prices, promote the game at a minor level and overseas.  And yeah, fund insurance/pension packages.

Owners -- 16 games.  Simplify and get rid of stupid rules



I can't believe that I'm even taking the time to respond to such an idiotic post.

Where to begin?   First of all, go to nfllockout.com and read every word.  That should keep your backwoods mountain ass busy for about 4 days.

- The players aren't asking for more money.  This is a lockout, not a strike.  It's the owners that are trying to "lockout" the players, because the owners want a bigger cut of the already agreed upon pie that has worked well for years.

- A rookie salary cap would be great IF contracts in the NFL were guaranteed like in the NBA and MLB.  But they're not guaranteed, so often times the big rookie money is the only money a NFL player ever sees.

- And "no negotiating for the first five years"???  Again, the NBA allows this for only 3 years and their average career length is almost 4.9 years.  MLB's avg career length is  5.6 years.  An NFL career averages less than 3.5 years (2.6 for RB's and 4.9 for K's). 

- Free agency is up to the "home team".  If they want the player, then they can pay the player.  If they don't want him bad enough, then there are 31 other "companies" that may bid for the player's services.

- A lower salary cap only helps the owners.  The money is there and the players are paid a percentage of the total.  If you lower the salary cap, then you're just giving the owners a larger piece of the pie.  The owners (as a whole, the NFL) are who negotiates the TV contracts AND sets ticket prices.  The players have no say so in any of that, directly.  No matter what is negotiated by the NFL, the players receive roughly 50% of the pie.   If the NFL wanted to sell the TV rights for $100 and gave all of the tickets away for free, then they could and there is nothing that the NFLPA (players union) could do about it.  They would take their $50 (roughly) and split it among the 1700 players.  But, the owners want more than $50.  They want as much as possible, so they negotiate the largest TV contracts they can AND push the ticket prices to new levels almost every year.  Now I can see your side here, sort of, if I use my binoculars.  Your idea of "benfitting" the communities and all is very noble, but these are greedy billionaires.  If they can pay the players less and still bring in the same revenue, do you really think they would lower prices and "give back" to the community???


--- the only part I agree with you on is that the veterans should be better taken care of and this should be mandated by both the NFL and NFLPA





Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 6:45 pm
 

Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

Although I may agree that the increase in player salaries has grown by astronomical percentages, it's only possible based on the Total Revenue generated by the NFL machine.  The TV contracts are guaranteed for the next 5 years, even if there is no football (can you believe that?). 

And as I mentioned before, the players aren't looking for an increase in pay, it's the owners looking for a larger piece of the guaranteed pie.

Who knows what the future holds, but the guaranteed TV dollars make this a fight that the NFL owners should not win.



Since: Jan 14, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 6:39 pm
 

Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

Good points, except for the take on Jerry Jones.  I'm not a Cowboys fan so this is my unbiased opinion.

Jerry could care less about the additional revenue from the 17th and 18th games.  Jerry's Cowboys make generate more money than any other franchise. (Cowboys and Redskins generate more together than the next 5 combined).  Jerry longs for the day when the NFL stops its revenue sharing policy.  He (and about 12 other owners) hate it.  They should drop the revenue sharing and let the weak and/or lazy teams (Bengals, Jaguars, Bills, Cardinals) die.  Then, by force, take these franchises away from their current owners.

My two cents.



Since: Nov 7, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2011 12:14 am
 

Report: NFLPA plans to decertify Thursday

  I love football and support the players in most things, but they get paid a lot. There is no rational reason that any owner of any company should make less than any of their employees.


Find me a player that makes more than his owner. If you do, then you will have a valid point here. If it's such a big thing for the owners to have a lower percentage of the pie, then why did they sign the previous cba?


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