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Once again, Doty not on lockout case

Posted on: March 14, 2011 10:20 am
Edited on: March 14, 2011 12:44 pm
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

UPDATED (12:40 p.m.): Multiple outlets are reporting that a motion for preliminary injuction in the Brady v NFL case will be heard at 9:30 a.m. April 6 in front of Judge Susan "Not David Doty" Nelson.

That's a scant 23 days from now. Which is decidedly not awesome.


There’s been plenty of talk recently about Judge David Doty and about how much the owners, well, would like to see him nowhere near the litigation that will emanate from the NFLPA’s decision to decertify and the owners’ decision to lock out the players.

It must have been a relief to the owners, then, when Judge Richard H. Kyle originally was assigned the Brady v NFL case. But when Kyle recused himself from the case because of a personal conflict with one of the firms involved, there was a chance Doty would take over the case after all.

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Even though the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minnesota told Will Brinson that Doty doesn’t hear many cases any more because of his “senior status,” the Kyle recusal must have accelerated the owners’ heartbeat.

Not to worry, though.

According to Daniel Kaplan of the Sports Business Journal, the case has been assigned to Judge Susan Nelson and not Doty.

As Kaplan writes, the NFLPA surely will file a motion to move the case to Doty’s courtroom, but for now, the owners can savor a minor victory in the case that very well could determine the outcome of this lockout.

In this case, the uncertainty of Nelson has to be better for the owners than the expected outcome of what Doty would do.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
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Once again, Doty not on lockout case

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 1:25 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: March 15, 2011 10:38 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

Yet in reality, it is the NFL trying to get awy from Doty, thereby judge shopping, wich is illegal.  But so is everything the NFL does these days.

I"m sooooooooooo sick of stupid people on these boards.  How did the NFL do any judge shopping?? They aren't the ones filing motions to have the case transferred to Doty, the NFLPA is...... 

Since: Nov 3, 2010
Posted on: March 15, 2011 9:47 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

Also on point #4 find new revenue streams, charge more for suites, get more sponsorship deals, I've been in sales, media sales to be exact and I can tell you that in the very rare instance of what we find ourselves in now ad rates go up every year so why would sponsorships be any different?

The NFL owners cannot just keep raising the prices.  At some point they will lose fans.  I already pay over $70 for a ticket.  when you have a family of four, include a program, some drinks, some food, parking, it becomes almost $500 to attend a four hour event .  If you are a successful salesman, you understand your price has to be competitive and in this type of economy, people are more price sensitive than ever.  Football is a luxury, its not a commodity like gas, something we need to have every day.

To point # 5 I never said that judges don't matter, not at all, they're not machines or automatons and sure everyone has biases but you can't say that he is DEFINITELY 100% going to rule in favor of the players, you just can't and if you try to then you're being very shortsighted.

If you go to pet a dog and he bites you. You do it again and he bites you again.  what do you think is going to happen when you go to pet him next time?  Doty's prior rulings make it HIGHLY LIKELY he will rule in the players favor, should it come to it.  These BILLIONAIRES arent stupid or naive.

As to point #6 if you come to me and ask me to take a pay cutsaying that you're "losing" money, and not because you're not "making " as much as you'd like you better damn well have the evidence to back it up, show me WHY you want me to take a pay cut is that really so much to ask? If you want to be a partner with the players share the relevant financial information that proves why you say you're losing money, don't expect them to just "take your word for it" that's just foolish!
They arent true partners.  A partner is someone who share in the good and the bad of the business.  The players dont do that.  This highlights my point.   The players want to be treated like partners and see the finances, but do not want to assume the risk the owner bear.

I have no doubt the owners are making less right now
Ahh hah,  Really, you know that and you havent had to look at the owners why do the players?  It is obvious to all of us (even you), why do the owners have to prove it?
Bison, It looks like you are a NFL player or a member of the NFLPA with your blinders on.  On one hand you say you have no doubt the owners are making less money than they used to, yet you say "prove it"

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: March 15, 2011 2:55 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

I will concede the point that it is not the AG's office who assigns the judges to ccases it is the Chief Justice of the court where the case is to be heard which I got from if you go to section B which is the civil trial handbook that is where you find that information on scheduling cases how they are assigned.

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: March 15, 2011 2:49 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

Hey Hubster I never said I was an "expert" and if anything I would defer to an attorney such as yourself in matters like this BUT I will say that just because someone makes a request for a certain judge or change of venue doesn't mean it's going to be granted.
In short you can ask all you like that doesn't mean you're going to receive what you request.

Since: Jul 28, 2008
Posted on: March 15, 2011 2:18 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

@skreffty, how are they judge shopping?  They aren't the ones filing motions to switch courts to one that is in their favor, taht is the NFLPA.  Get your facts straight.  The NFL is just been happy that all three judges thus far haven't been Doty, having hopes are not illegal.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: March 15, 2011 2:15 pm

Once again, Doty not on lockout case

he NFL teams (minus Green Bay) are private companies.  They have no obligation to show their books to anyone.  If the players want to see their books, then they should be willing to reduce their salaries from year to year, if the teams start to lose money

Bingo.  Players can't and won't have it both ways.  "show me your books so I can prove you're not hurting financially"  only works if the players are willing to take a pay cut whenever the owners prove business is down.   The players want a raise when things are going great and they want everything to stay the same when an owner loses money...... WHAT BUSINESS WORKS LIKE THAT IN THIS WORLD???????

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