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Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Posted on: May 27, 2011 9:38 am
Edited on: May 27, 2011 10:41 am
 
GoodellPosted by Josh Katzowitz

As an outside observer, it seems that hardly anybody wants the NFL to move to an 18-game schedule. With the exception of 33 people – the 32 owners, plus commissioner Roger Goodell – it comes across to me that people are cool with the 16 games.

Yet Goodell, according to the (Nashville) Tennessean, continues to use the line that fans just can’t stop shivering in anticipation of two extra games.

“We do think it is attractive to season-ticket holders. I hear that all of the time from our season-ticket holders,” Goodell said on a conference call with Titans season ticket holders. "We have not abandoned our position on that. We do think it is the right thing for the game. It improves the quality of what we do, and it improves the value for you as season-ticket holders. … We do think it is a benefit for everybody, but we want to do it the right way, and we want to do it responsibly. That includes the players’ perspective.”

Hardly anybody likes the preseason schedule and yeah, I can see why Goodell thinks it’s in the fans' best interests to give them more real games for the money they’re spending on season ticket packages.

But I just don’t get the sense the fans are all that keen on the idea (and we KNOW that the players don’t want it), mostly due to injury concerns.

Yet, Goodell just won’t stop, and it's getting laughable.

But here’s the thing, and Yahoo! Sports’ Doug Farrar points it out: Goodell has participated in 19 conference calls like this, and after reading transcripts of the talks, hardly any fan has mentioned wanting what Goodell says the fans want.

And here’s what I don’t understand. The 18-game schedule is off the table for these labor negotiations, so why is Goodell STILL talking about it? Especially when it seems somewhat clear that the fans aren’t all that interested in the idea.

Labor News
I took an unscientific Twitter poll this morning to gauge the fans’ reaction to the idea of adding two more games, and here are my results: 83.9 percent of the respondents said they like the 16-game format fine, thanks very much (psst, I guess they must not be season ticket holders, right?).

Here are a few of their responses:

From @L7Panda: “NO to an 18 game season, just like the previous polls had said, 80% of fans do NOT want an 18 game season. NO NO NO NO NO.”

From @CJ_Camisa: "Yes!!!! As a Packer fan I want even more of my players to miss time to injuries!!! They don't take enough hits!" #sissies

From @Preine_PtR: "As a Browns fan, I'm usually begging for the season to be over with by week 5."

From @manicsocratic: "18 game schedule is fine. Make it fair to the players and change regulation to 48 minutes though."

So, that seems pretty clear to me. Fans don’t want it, and season ticket-holders don’t want it. I just wish Goodell would stop pronouncing it like it’s some kind of fact.

By the way, you can check out the labor timeline and the labor issues of the day. You know, in case you need a refresher.

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Comments

Since: Feb 5, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:22 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

The best idea of all would be for the idiots that are involved in the negotiations to discuss what the fans actually want.  That is a full season complete with training camps, mini camps, and all the drama that comes with it.  We don't care if it is a 16 game season or an 18 game season.  Once again both of the selfish parties involved are overlooking the people who they need to keep happy.  As a fan I can say this; I pay your bills, I am the one who stands to lose the most in this deal, and I am the one each party uses to justify their own selfish, narrow-minded, arrogant and most of all SELLF-SERVING point of view.  If you ask me both parties are right, neither the players nor the owners are truely concerned about what the fans think. We pay your bills, thats right Texas stadium is funded by the guys who go to work every day so they can make enough money to buy their season tickets.  When a new Bentley is purchased by a well paid athlete we each participate in making the payment for the $250,000 dollar price tag.  Your welcome guys, now we can see how much you truely appreciate us.



Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:09 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

CLAY49 wrote: "It is BLATANTLY Obvious that the new saftey rules are to protect offensive skill players with the clear advantage to the offensive players. in college football these rules dont exist & yet there arent as many serious injuries."

I'm in agreement with few of the rules changes introduced since Goodell's assumption of the Commissioner's chair, but feel that two things need be noted. First, it's the Competition Committee, which is a body that is of and which reports to the owners directly, which is responsible for these pronunciomentos, not the Commissioner himself. (He just parrots the company line, like a good little boy. The guiding light there appears to be John McKay's idiot son. Like his father, he's been an unmitigated disaster who's somehow charmed the moneybags into the sort of upward failure that so frustrates the rest of us unfortunate enough to work around such fellows.) 

Second, rules aside, the "force" (which is actually momentum) of NFL collisions, on average, is significantly greater than those in college ball. In addition, the likelihood that the participants will be unprepared when contact does come is also much greater. The greater speed at the top level is largely responsible for any disparities, with some help from added their greater average mass. (Momentum = Velocity x Mass)



Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:01 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

here is an idea....for those of you that only want a 16 game schedule.....watch 16 games when it goes to 18 game schedule....stop being pu$$ies....real football fans want to see more meaningful football.....18 regular season games plus 2 peseason as opposed to 16 regular games and 4 preaseason



Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:00 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

This guy clearly lies but for some reason you people believe him when he tells you what the players are doing or want for this labor dispute.  How anyone can side with this doofus or the owners is absolutely beyond me.  The owners opted out of the current labor deal, wanted another $1B skimmed off the top before ANY profits go to the players at all, then wanted to further lower the player salary pool on top of that.  They also want to increase the number of games to further dilute player pay while increase owner profits.  And for all of this, to refuse to open the books or be audited, and demand the players "take our word for it."

And still yet there are fans that insist the owners are getting screwed and are innocent.  Or that the players are equally at fault for this mess and should just give into all the owners demands.

If the players have any pride, they just quit the NFL.  Let them go fight in MMA or play basketball or some other sport.  I am a huge NFL fan but I honestly hope the league just dies and people like Goodell run it straight into the ground.  The NFL is too expensive for the average fan now, the rules are stupid, it has too many games and I especially hate that asshole Goodell.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:56 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

I would prefer a 14 game season.  Too much coasting already.  This ain't jai alai.



Since: Dec 18, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:53 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Season ticket holders want 18 games, as do owners, anyone else???? Don't think so.



Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:50 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

MoonOverMiami--

True, players do get injured during the exhibition games, but a greater truth is that much of the toll on players' careers is CUMULATIVE. Over a season and over a career. Too, the more downtime--between hits, between games, between seasons--the more likely that the players' bodies will recover. These meat machines are stressed to failure very often as things are now. Their owners--the players, not the moguls nor even the many self-reverential fanatics--are right to be concerned about the possible impacts of further damages. 



Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:49 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

of course fans want 18 games....i am a season ticket holder....would i rather pay for 2 meaningless preseason games or 1? DUUUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!



Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:47 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

goodell is a pig....noone I know wants 18 games....noone



Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:35 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

"Hardly anybody likes the preseason schedule and yeah, I can see why Goodell thinks it’s in the fans' best interests to give them more real games for the money they’re spending on season ticket packages.

But I just don’t get the sense the fans are all that keen on the idea (and we KNOW that the players don’t want it), mostly due to injury concerns.

Yet, Goodell just won’t stop, and it's getting laughable."

Reread that last sentence. Thereby hangs a tale, not to mention the frayed tatters of what used to be Roger Snowjob's reputation. The man could've chosen to at least pretend to be a SOMEWHAT impartial fellow, foursquare for the "good of the game." After all, he doesn't actually negotiate the contracts, anyway. (Jeff Pash, the NFL's chief counsel does that, reporting to a committee of the owners. The financial interests of these 32 "titans of industry" are in no way entirely aligned, so each is represented at every turn by people who each regards as his own.) Alas, this Commissioner apparently believed that all of those hugs from the draftees in 2010 meant that the players regarded him as some kind of massa, looking to the great white father for spiritual and financial leadership. The current, naked truth unfolding before us seems to be causing him to unravel before our very eyes. 

Any minute now, I expect him to announce that HE's the Messiah come again, or that he recently returned from being probed by aliens who looked like Reggie White. 


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