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Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Posted on: May 27, 2011 9:38 am
Edited on: May 27, 2011 10:41 am
GoodellPosted by Josh Katzowitz

As an outside observer, it seems that hardly anybody wants the NFL to move to an 18-game schedule. With the exception of 33 people – the 32 owners, plus commissioner Roger Goodell – it comes across to me that people are cool with the 16 games.

Yet Goodell, according to the (Nashville) Tennessean, continues to use the line that fans just can’t stop shivering in anticipation of two extra games.

“We do think it is attractive to season-ticket holders. I hear that all of the time from our season-ticket holders,” Goodell said on a conference call with Titans season ticket holders. "We have not abandoned our position on that. We do think it is the right thing for the game. It improves the quality of what we do, and it improves the value for you as season-ticket holders. … We do think it is a benefit for everybody, but we want to do it the right way, and we want to do it responsibly. That includes the players’ perspective.”

Hardly anybody likes the preseason schedule and yeah, I can see why Goodell thinks it’s in the fans' best interests to give them more real games for the money they’re spending on season ticket packages.

But I just don’t get the sense the fans are all that keen on the idea (and we KNOW that the players don’t want it), mostly due to injury concerns.

Yet, Goodell just won’t stop, and it's getting laughable.

But here’s the thing, and Yahoo! Sports’ Doug Farrar points it out: Goodell has participated in 19 conference calls like this, and after reading transcripts of the talks, hardly any fan has mentioned wanting what Goodell says the fans want.

And here’s what I don’t understand. The 18-game schedule is off the table for these labor negotiations, so why is Goodell STILL talking about it? Especially when it seems somewhat clear that the fans aren’t all that interested in the idea.

Labor News
I took an unscientific Twitter poll this morning to gauge the fans’ reaction to the idea of adding two more games, and here are my results: 83.9 percent of the respondents said they like the 16-game format fine, thanks very much (psst, I guess they must not be season ticket holders, right?).

Here are a few of their responses:

From @L7Panda: “NO to an 18 game season, just like the previous polls had said, 80% of fans do NOT want an 18 game season. NO NO NO NO NO.”

From @CJ_Camisa: "Yes!!!! As a Packer fan I want even more of my players to miss time to injuries!!! They don't take enough hits!" #sissies

From @Preine_PtR: "As a Browns fan, I'm usually begging for the season to be over with by week 5."

From @manicsocratic: "18 game schedule is fine. Make it fair to the players and change regulation to 48 minutes though."

So, that seems pretty clear to me. Fans don’t want it, and season ticket-holders don’t want it. I just wish Goodell would stop pronouncing it like it’s some kind of fact.

By the way, you can check out the labor timeline and the labor issues of the day. You know, in case you need a refresher.

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Since: Dec 4, 2010
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:32 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Personally, I do not want 18 games.  However, I will pass final judgement after the Commish enlightens us with his plan.  It seems THAT would be the logical thing to do.   

Since: May 14, 2011
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:03 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games


Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 7:49 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

As a season ticket holder I don't necessarily want 18 games. I just don't appreciate paying full price to 2 of the 4 pre-season games. That's why this is an easy sell to invested fans (the 50k-80k season ticket holders in every NFL city). Do you want to pay the same price for 8 regular season games and 2 preseason games or 9 regular season games and 1 preseason game? Folks complaining about injuries need to understand that there are 20 games in the premium-priced season already. All the NFL wants to do is take two preseason games and make them real. Players DO get injured in the preseason, even if the starters don't play the entire game.

Since: Feb 29, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 7:36 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games


Since: Sep 21, 2010
Posted on: May 28, 2011 5:34 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

great article Josh. It is BLATANTLY Obvious that NO ONE (fans/players/coaches)is interested in an 18 game season.It is BLATANTLY Obvious that for  Goodell & owners an 18 game season is strictly a GREED Thing not a need thing.
   goodell is doing what he always has & will continue to do. and that is con you. Since he has become commissioner hes do nothing but proclaim one thing after another about making the game better. and true he has made changes but I really dont see significant change for the better in the NFL. In fact I see the opposite. the emphasis on protecting the players lead by the commish has become a joke.
It is BLATANTLY Obvious that the new saftey rules are to protect offensive skill players with the clear advantage to the offensive players. in college football these rules dont exist & yet there arent as many serious injuries.
It is BLATANTLY Obvious that the nfl teams traveling to europe is excessive to say the least. is it bettering the nfl? really? again goodells idea.
 and a superbowl in the cold eastern weather in early feb? I live in new england and I personally can say its a recipe for disaster. what if 18 inchs of snow hits the day of the superbowl. the game cant possibly be played effectly not to mentioned the safety of fans attending the game traveling to & fro.and what is it with the PHONY DISPLAYS OF AFFECTION at the nfl drafts? I tell you it sickens me when he claims in his speeches he cares but yet petitions for an 18 game season.

Yes  It is BLATANTLY Obvious that its not about goodell trying to make the nfl better but about him trying to create a leagacy as a Nfl commish. He'll try just about anything that will bring attention to something hes done.
what made Paul T. such a great commish was that he did care.  & he showed it by never interfering with the integrity of the game. nor creating unneeded tention between the players & the owners. nor unwarranted over the top marketing of the nfl in other countries. nor showy displays of affection to draftees or biased aliances with owners. Paul would never have allowed this Labor situation to get this far & this bad. if it continues the damage will be irrepable wether there is a season or not.

yes to me, in my humble opinion Goodell is no more than a sleazy car salesman or a snake in the grass CEO of alot corperate america companies. they smile in your face & think ill of you. they "brown nose" and kiss up to whomever will get them ahead or put money in there pockets. they as Native Americans would say "speak with two tongues", lying for selfish gains & purposes. hes what my dad used to call a B.S artist.

Yes, It is BLATANTLY Obvious that goodell  is con. the players know it. and now alot of the fans know it too.

Since: Sep 27, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 5:33 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

I agree. All fans have to do is not buy tickets or go to any games or buy any NFL merchandise for one year. That's it. One year. It's time we lock out the NFL. Fans do have a voice and need to use it.

The only true way fans can voice their displeasure is to stop watching games on television. The current labor dispute isn’t over gate receipt or merchandize money, it’s over television contract money. One could argue the league is hoping fans boycott attending games and the NFL Shop, as long as the Nielsen ratings continue to climb all is good in NFL land.

Who is Roger polling? I have yet to meet anyone that wants 18 games.

Probably those that own corporate luxury boxes. You know, another home game to wine and dine their clients. They are football fans, its just not in Goodell’s best interest to tell the average fan that he has polled the luxury box owners and they want nine home games instead of eight.

The rich have spoken and now Goodell must sell it.


Since: May 4, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 4:43 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

EVERYBODY in my city that I've spoken to seems to want an 18-game schedule. Everyone strongly dislikes preseason, but still wants team vs team scrimages which can be off camera. We don't even need the 2 other preseason games, but I suppose we can keep them for the fans that want to check out the back ups. And can't get to camp.

What are the statistics on season ending injuries to starters in the four preseason games vs the first 4 regular season games? Now take the number of season ending injuries in the preseason and multiply by 4 because on average starters get about a quarter. Then we can have some legitimate numbers.

Why doesn't the NFL and NFLPA agree upon an independent consultant such as BCG or McKinsey to run independt polls to season ticket holders asking about their preferences as to 18 game seasons? 4 preseason games? Physicallity of the game? Head Shots? Protecting QBs? etc. Why not get some real hard cold data instead of debating and being so subjective?

Fellas please stop with you BS articles and present some real statistics. CBS SPORTSLINE IS A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Writers that make up polls and make-up statistics make their brands a JOKE!!!!!!!!! Please CBS hire some real analysts that do not make up statistics and hire some statisticians to put together some truthful and meaningful numbers and then write articles using facts. More subjective biased garbage is not what will help solve hit dispute.


Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 3:16 am

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

The fans in Europe buy 80,000 tickets in less than one day, but why let the facts get in the way of your BS? lol

Quite the irony given you were lecturing another BS specialist in Goodell. 

Since: May 25, 2011
Posted on: May 28, 2011 2:11 am
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Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 1:52 am

Goodell is disconnected and a fool

To begin with I have no idea why Goodell is commenting on fans wanting an 18 game season when the fact of the matter is at this point most fans are more concerned with just having a season.  Secondly, who is Goodell consulting?  I don't know of anyone who wants an 18 game season.  I certainly don't want an 18 game season.  Goodell has made some decent contributions to the NFL in his tenure as commissioner but his legacy could be forever tarnished by the results of this labor dispute.  As it stands Goodell seems to have no clue what the fans want.  Goodell and the owners have their heads so far up each others butts that they can't see their way out of this mess.  An 18 game season?  Why are we even talking about an 18 game season?  Goodell is disconnected!  I am very close to saying screw the NFL for the extended future and following the college game with more vigor.  Goodell, the owners, and the NFL as a whole suck!  Who cares about an 18 game season.  Focus on having a season period.

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