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Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Posted on: May 27, 2011 9:38 am
Edited on: May 27, 2011 10:41 am
 
GoodellPosted by Josh Katzowitz

As an outside observer, it seems that hardly anybody wants the NFL to move to an 18-game schedule. With the exception of 33 people – the 32 owners, plus commissioner Roger Goodell – it comes across to me that people are cool with the 16 games.

Yet Goodell, according to the (Nashville) Tennessean, continues to use the line that fans just can’t stop shivering in anticipation of two extra games.

“We do think it is attractive to season-ticket holders. I hear that all of the time from our season-ticket holders,” Goodell said on a conference call with Titans season ticket holders. "We have not abandoned our position on that. We do think it is the right thing for the game. It improves the quality of what we do, and it improves the value for you as season-ticket holders. … We do think it is a benefit for everybody, but we want to do it the right way, and we want to do it responsibly. That includes the players’ perspective.”

Hardly anybody likes the preseason schedule and yeah, I can see why Goodell thinks it’s in the fans' best interests to give them more real games for the money they’re spending on season ticket packages.

But I just don’t get the sense the fans are all that keen on the idea (and we KNOW that the players don’t want it), mostly due to injury concerns.

Yet, Goodell just won’t stop, and it's getting laughable.

But here’s the thing, and Yahoo! Sports’ Doug Farrar points it out: Goodell has participated in 19 conference calls like this, and after reading transcripts of the talks, hardly any fan has mentioned wanting what Goodell says the fans want.

And here’s what I don’t understand. The 18-game schedule is off the table for these labor negotiations, so why is Goodell STILL talking about it? Especially when it seems somewhat clear that the fans aren’t all that interested in the idea.

Labor News
I took an unscientific Twitter poll this morning to gauge the fans’ reaction to the idea of adding two more games, and here are my results: 83.9 percent of the respondents said they like the 16-game format fine, thanks very much (psst, I guess they must not be season ticket holders, right?).

Here are a few of their responses:

From @L7Panda: “NO to an 18 game season, just like the previous polls had said, 80% of fans do NOT want an 18 game season. NO NO NO NO NO.”

From @CJ_Camisa: "Yes!!!! As a Packer fan I want even more of my players to miss time to injuries!!! They don't take enough hits!" #sissies

From @Preine_PtR: "As a Browns fan, I'm usually begging for the season to be over with by week 5."

From @manicsocratic: "18 game schedule is fine. Make it fair to the players and change regulation to 48 minutes though."

So, that seems pretty clear to me. Fans don’t want it, and season ticket-holders don’t want it. I just wish Goodell would stop pronouncing it like it’s some kind of fact.

By the way, you can check out the labor timeline and the labor issues of the day. You know, in case you need a refresher.

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Comments

Since: Oct 7, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 1:37 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

No one I know wants an 18 game sced.  Apart from some more obvious injury reasons, it takes away the prestige and importance of each game.  Teams will be able to make the playoffs with 8 losses. Let the subs play their preseason games and win their spots on the depth chart.  



Since: Jul 8, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 1:35 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Who is Roger polling? I have yet to meet anyone that wants 18 games. Do I want my favorite players having ever shorter careers? Or being taken out of a game at halftime to save him from too many hits? NO!!!! Fans don't want to pay FULL PRICE for pre-season games. That's the disconnect! And why should we!!!



Since: Mar 7, 2011
Posted on: May 28, 2011 1:30 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

I agree.  All fans have to do is not buy tickets or go to any games or buy any NFL merchandise for one year.  That's it.  One year.  It's time we lock out the NFL.  Fans do have a voice and need to use it.



Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 1:12 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

The fans do not want an 18 game schedule. What does Godell think, that fans want more injuries and more meaningless games at the end of the year? Get real Mr. Commisioner!



Since: Jan 10, 2010
Posted on: May 28, 2011 1:00 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

since when does goodell and the nfl care bout what the fans want? FANS FIGHT BACK AND DO NOT BUY ANY TICKETS TO ANY GAMES!!!



Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 12:57 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Fans just want football. Period. Screw the 16 game schedule. Leave it the way it is.



Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 12:45 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

And here’s what I don’t understand. The 18-game schedule is off the table for these labor negotiations, so why is Goodell STILL talking about it? Especially when it seems somewhat clear that the fans aren’t all that interested in the idea.

Here's the rub if the NFL is so benevolent to increase the retired players benefit of a million dollars a year and then you have a potetial of 12%+ more injuries. It seems to me that the owners are either sandbagging or hedging their bets. And why as a ticket holder want to pay full price to see players on the bubble who clearly are not going to be a part of the team that I believe in, dream about and take joy in their successes and lament their shortcomings and losses. Does the NFL owners want me to pay for that? I'm now of the belief that the owners are somehow trying to go back to the "50's where players are beef and not the product and that somehow the owners are the attraction. How stupid is that?



Since: Apr 24, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 12:30 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

The NFL is by far my favorite league/sport.  It is the most profitable sports league in the world.  If it ain't broke don't fix it. 
This fan is happy with 16 games.   



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: May 28, 2011 12:30 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Good points and discussion, SkyHawk. 
My own view is that it may all be a storm in a teacup, because I think Goodell and the owners are just using this proposal as just a bargaining chip and will bargain it away in exchange for something that's more important to them.  So I'm not sweating it too much. 




Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 12:27 am
 

Goodell still says fans want 18 games

Ok let's look at the numbers: at 16 games the starters can't stay healthy so we get to see backups whom are typically unprepared for the game, at least on the offensive side of the ball.
Then they add two additional games at let's say 50,000 people at $20 minimum for tickets. HMMMM that looks like a gross intake of a million dollars a game for each extra game. HMMMM at a typical net profit at 20% that looks like the owners would be pocketing $200k at the expense of their players health and the fans getting to root for number two on the chart by the end of the year. Does that make sense to anybody but the owners and Faudger Goodell?


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