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Warner: players will 'have to give in'

Posted on: May 27, 2011 4:25 pm
Edited on: May 27, 2011 4:32 pm
WarnerPosted by Josh Katzowitz

In statements that will surely not make his former teammates (and the rest of the league’s players, for that matter) very happy, Kurt Warner told USA Today that eventually the players will have to cave in to the owners in order to end the labor strife.

"I'm still optimistic that they're going to find a way to make sure there's football," Warner told the paper. "The players have too much to lose. And as much as I hate to say it, at some point, the players have to give in. And, hopefully, they can gain some other things on their side.

"But ultimately, they have too much to lose."

Warner makes an interesting point, and I think he might very well be correct, though some players have questioned why Warner would even say this now. As the summer months roll into fall and players still aren’t receiving paychecks, I certainly could see a huge crack in the foundation of the NFLPA’s supposed solidarity. The owners obviously have larger chunks of money to lose, but they’re also much better equipped to handle it.

You won’t, for instance, see an owner trying to secure a $500,000 loan with 23 percent interest. Instead, they force one-week furloughs on their lowest level employees in order to save money in tough times.

Said Warner: "I always hope, 'Let's get something that's good for everybody.’ (But) just because we have leverage doesn't mean we just screw the people we have leverage on.

"Let's come together and say, 'This is what we need. We need you guys to pull back here, and we want to make it so you can get benefits and you can be taken care of long term.' … That's what I hope gets done. The players have to give a little, and the owners have to give a little, and it's good for everybody in the end. And let's go play some football."

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Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 10:55 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

The overiding issue at stake here is:

Advertising revenue drives TV networks drives NFL TV contracts drives NFL Profit/Loss drives Player salaries.

The World Wide Web is changing all advertising business models as we speak sending more and more revenue to outlets like Facebook, Google, and other social network destinations.

I assume that the NFL owners understand that the ever increasing revenue pie is at a peak and its future is suspect, although I would not expect the players association to understand this.

As a result, either the NFL's business model is adjusted or a crash can be expected.  But hey, our politicos are ignoring the crash of economy due to excessive debt, why should we expect the players association to behave any different?

The future prosperity of the greatness of the NFL is at stake here I believe - go NFL owners!

Since: Oct 8, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 10:54 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

"players have very short careers and it's not fair they aren't taken care of"

That's what the COLLEGE part of this whole process is about! That's why you get a free $80,000 + education ..and your "job"  is to go to practice and be a celebrity at the age of 18-21 while the rest of us work paycheck jobs through college! Some of us pay our $80,000 education off over the span of a players get a ..."let's call it even pass!"

Short career my arse!  If you told me after I graduate school the first 3 years of my life would be spent studying film and working out (for 5-6 months annually) and for that I was going to rbe compensated millions of dollars as a starter-kit to apply what I learned in COLLEGE....I think I'd be just fine!

i have no sympathy for the players! i apprciate their talents, but will never shed a tear! They've walked the good life since high school-thru college and now all of them have made more $$$ in a single "season, not even a year" than most do in a lifetime....f'n whaaaaa!

If the owners are making too much $$$...?????...then I think that's on the public! Stop paying $135 for a ticket, along with $30 per car for parking! $8 for a beer you well know you can get at local bars for $1.50 regularly and those businesses still make money at that know this already!  $6 hotdog...???...if this meat product was so God aware that we killed it?...He might not be happy with us! C'mon!?Refuse to pay the $85 for an authentic jersey that costs $15 to make!  

I bet it would even out then!

Without demand....the suppliers of entertainment have to adjust accordingly...that would solve all of this they make wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much money situation! 

Also, FANTASY LEAGUES have created a whole new aspect of this "individual worth" crap. Players are in business for themselves and personal interests along with agents pushing the mark! Owners want merchandising $$ for these "individuals" and in order to get them have to agree to these outlandish salaries...they just pass those costs on to the people willing to pay for an $8 draft Coors Light!    Screw em!

Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 10:44 am
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Since: Jan 10, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:59 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

I guess it's going to take a player who is no longer playing to knock some sense into the situation.  He's got to be saying what most of them who ARE playing are really thinking.  Why does labor on all fronts think it is such injustice not to get equal shares of pies when they are NOT taking equal risks of capital?  Sure the risks of physical harm, etc., are enough for labor to negotiate terms for more of a share, but it usually goes too far and it is labor that usually starts looking ridiculous.  This is starting to be the case now with this dispute.

Since: Jan 31, 2011
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:34 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

go figure a dolphins fan bashing a good qb. considersing his team hasn't had shit for the position sine dan marino.

Since: Nov 3, 2007
Posted on: May 28, 2011 9:25 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

If Warner had any connection to the NFL his statements might mean something.  He is an out of work insurance salesman.....go away Kurt.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:31 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

I'm no fan of Warner, but I think he's got this one right.If the players don't give in, there will be no NFL this year.Players average very short careers & to lose a year would be devistating to the players.There skills will erode & there body will be a year older.A year off also means those players who had 1 more year in him--Had it last year.A year off would leave high cost rookies without a year to watch, play, & learn.They will also have to compete with next years rookies.On the other hand, the owners will weather this storm.The players are use to those fat paychecks & they will feel it as soon as they miss one.Like Patrick Ewing says---Yeah, we make more, so we need more.Many players will go broke with a year of no paychecks.The players have their back against the wall & they better give in within about 10 days or this season will be in serous trouble.Wait-It already is.My guess is the drop dead date for the players to give in is June 15th.The owners hold all the cards here.


Since: Jan 3, 2008
Posted on: May 28, 2011 8:02 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

if you love your job and your boss wants to re-nogotiate your salary, you would be upset too right?  But listen, if you LOVED your job, you would nogotiate, you wouldnt be firm on your demands, because after all, you love your job and there is nothing else you would rather do.  Any career can be summed up the same as NFL in the sense that the employees make the company.  If it werent for the managers of a grocery store, it would not run efficiently...if it werent for cooks, the neighborhood restaraunt wouldnt make it....but listen close...if it werent for the owners, ceo's, founders of these places, there wouldnt be these places to begin with.  Once they figure that will all become clear.  If you wanna run the show, and make the money to run the show...start your own!  PLAIN AND SIMPLE.  Oh and by the way, the customers of these establishments produce the funds for all to be in retrospect  WE are the owners.  Again, basic economics.  C'mon your job, spend your money and everyone is happy.

Since: May 9, 2011
Posted on: May 28, 2011 4:39 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

I'm just tired of the whole mess.  However, I believe Warner is fairly accurate with his views.  I believe the players solidarity will definitely start to crumble once we get deeper into the year.  We aren't going to see the likes of Peyton or Brady start worrying, but there are plenty of check to check guys at the bottom levels that have mortgages to pay, kids to feed, car payments, child support, alimony, you name it.....things are going to get a little tough.  The owners will also lose money in the short term, but I believe they will make their stand and try to get a significantly better deal in place.

I see some valid points by both sides.  I DO hope the players can get something in place that will assist with long term health/insurance benefits, etc.  On the other side of the coin.....I'm tired of these rookies coming in and getting outrageous contracts without ever having to prove themselves.

Anyway - let's just hope something gets done so we can watch some football.

Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: May 28, 2011 4:15 am

Warner: players will 'have to give in'

"A lot of the players are broke during the lockout and need money, ASAP.  How are they supposed to pay all their bills?  A lot of these players have multiple houses, expensive cars, etc. and don't have any money coming in..."
@32Zone You've got to be kidding. These players need to just play football if they want to pay their bills. Either that or they can sell some of their "multiple houses, expensive cars, etc." They had a pretty sweet deal before otherwise they wouldn't have all those luxuries. Most educated hard working people in this world will never have half of the stuff these overpaid self-indulgent megalomaniacs own. I don't really care how much money the owners make. It's their team. It's their property. More power to the owners. And if the fans don't like it they can stop watching and spend more time with their families.

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