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Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

Posted on: August 7, 2011 11:28 am
 
Posted by Ryan Wilson

It wasn't long ago that the Panthers' Steve Smith was considered one of the most dangerous wide receivers in the game. In recent years, however, his output has fallen off a cliff. He hauled in 78 passes for 1,421 yards in 2008 only to see his yards receiving drop by 439 yards from 2008 to 2009, and it dropped another 428 yards from '09 to '10 (to a six-year low of 554).

Smith's dwindling production coincides with Carolina's three-year slide from playoff team to one of the worst outfits in the league. Also not helping: the revolving door at quarterback; Jake Delhomme was released after the 2009 season, and Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen combined for two wins in 2010. Now it's only a matter of time before 2011 first-overall pick Cam Newton finds the field.

It's a culmination of all these things, as well as the conservative system former head coach John Fox seemed to favor -- not Smith's age -- that had everything to do with decidedly pedestrian numbers. At least that's the story Smith's telling.

"I respect coach Fox and I respect the offensive coordinators that have been here," Smith said, according to the Charlotte Observer. "But at the same time I'm a wide receiver. Run blocking is not my forte.

"It is nice to have layers, have multiple sets, not to just be stacking to one spot for 70 plays," Smith said of Carolina's new offense now under the direction or Rob Chudzinski. "I get to line up in different spots. It's just refreshing. It's not saying, 'Well, we're going to move you around,' and then never do it. Here they're actually saying it and it's happening. It's not just me. It's other guys as well."

The Panthers are making a conscious decision to move away from Fox's run-first scheme. Last week the organization traded for former Bears tight end Greg Olsen, and Newton wasn't selected first overall to hand the ball off.

"The quarterbacks are doing what has not been done around here in a long time. The philosophy in years past has been not to screw it up," Smith said. "And here it's put your foot down on the gas pedal and go hard. So I like that."

One of the liberating things about going 2-14 in 2010 is that there isn't much pressure on the Panthers in 2011. New head coach Ron Rivera isn't yet on the hot seat (though we imagine it's only a matter of time), and expectations couldn't be lower. In that sense, it's a great time to be a Carolina fan. (Okay, that was a bit much, even for us.)

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Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: August 8, 2011 9:19 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

I wouldn't say the talent of the Panthers is as good as any team in the NFC. Unless my crack pipe was still flaming hot of course!  Hey, I think that they have some good pieces for sure.  And let's be honest Steve Smith, you don't win football games by firing down field with ineffective quarterback play (basically what they have had for 3-4 years).  When you have 2 stud running backs and one of the top Offensive Lines in the league, you run the ball.  Plain and simple.  It's not as glamorous but it is how you attempt to win games.  Control the clock, run the ball, and play tight defense.  Once they started losing defensive talent (Julius Peppers comes to mind), they started losing more games.  Don't expect Cam Newton to come in on his white horse and carry this team to the promised land overnight.  He may be good down the road, but it's rare that rookie qb's come in and do well.  It is usually with a proven, veteran filled team that does run well and play good defense (Big Ben etc.....)  As for Olsen???  He is a good talent that underachieved under what.....3 or 4 diff. offensive coordinators in Chicago.  Most of us Bears fans think it was a bad trade only for the sack of peanuts we received in return.  Olsen's value wasn't in accordance to where he was drafted.  Just another reach by our GM Jerry Angelo.  I like Olsen and I think he could have a solid year or two somewhere else.  The Mike Martz offense requires more of blocking tight ends than what Olsen could provide.  If I was Olsen, I would lose 10 pounds and just be a freaking wide receiver anyway!



Since: Oct 17, 2009
Posted on: August 8, 2011 7:54 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

The original Cleveland Browns went to Baltimore and won a championship there.  The NEW BROWNS Didn't come into the league until 1999.  So before you run your mouth look it up.  Totally different team.  Just the same name.  Different Team, Different Owner.  Just the name is hardly the same. 

You haven't seen him play.  While you may not agree You will see.

HOMER TALK???  William, Kalil, Gross, Beason, and Smith Pro Bowlers. Johnson, Davis and Anderson on defense, Olsen, Otah, Stewart, Wharthon solid up and coming players.  Throw in Gamble, Hardy and Martin from the Defense and Schwartz, Gettis and LaFell from the offense and we have named over 3/4 of the team.   That is EXCLUDING Cam Newton who will be Rookie of the Year..   While you say who... Remember J. Richardson made Fox play the young good players last year. 

While I am a Panther fan, I am also in tune with what is going on down in Carolina.  One of the great things about Rivera, there are NO EXCUSES.  This team will stumble a bit early on but if they come out of the 1st month 2-2.  STAND BY.

Don't Hate....





Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: August 8, 2011 7:28 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

Cleveland*   EXPANSION 1999
Good job at talking nonsense.  Cleveland has been around for decades outside of the 4 years they weren't in the league in the late '90s.

Obviously you think that Newton was a one hit wonder.  Obviously you haven't been reading... or maybe you can't read.  Newton is the real deal.  Newton will be the Benchmark in the NFC South by 2013. 
You can't be considered the real deal until you step onto the field and prove it.  Newton has proven nothing in the NFL.  College means nothing.  Practice means nothing.  Stow that talk until Newton proves he's capable of being anything more than a one year college wonder.

Another uneducated comment.  The Chargers we #1 offense last year.  Do you think he had nothing to do with it?  The talent on the Panthers is probably as good as any NFC team.  Including GB. 
Such homer talk.





Since: Oct 17, 2009
Posted on: August 8, 2011 7:03 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

You are delussional... Your whole tread went right in the toilet when you called Olsen a castoff.  The majority of good Bears fans thinks that was a terrible trade.

Smith is by far a better and more dangerous receiver then Jackson.  More of a team player. 

Obviously you didn't follow the drama last year at all.  You would know that John Fox did more to hurt this team then to help it.   Between his bend don't break defense and an offensive coordinator that couldn't find his way out of a paper bag.

Obviously you think that Newton was a one hit wonder.  Obviously you haven't been reading... or maybe you can't read.  Newton is the real deal.  Newton will be the Benchmark in the NFC South by 2013. 

Another uneducated comment.  The Chargers we #1 offense last year.  Do you think he had nothing to do with it?  The talent on the Panthers is probably as good as any NFC team.  Including GB. 

Josh Freeman is good but TB will tumble backwards. 

Go back a pull for your perennial loser in Detroit and leave the real football to us.

BTW can you name the 4 teams to have never been to the Super Bowl

Jacksonville  EXPANSION 1995
Houston    &nbs
p;  EXPANSION 2002
Cleveland*   EXPANSION 1999

Detroit    &nbs
p;    Last Championship.... 1957 WOW!!!!! 

No wonder you like to talk out your A$$ cause you have no foundation to back you trash talking. 



Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: August 8, 2011 6:10 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

Okay, well try this on for size:
Your coach has had less time to work with his staff and his players than most other first year coaches in the history of the league, due to the lockout.
Your highly questionable quarterback, whom many are waiting to be the next Vince Young, has had less time than any other quarterback taken #1 overall (most of whom having far, far less question marks) to learn the offense and get acclimated to playing at such a high level.  (not to mention the fact that his style of play has not historically translated well to the faster, stronger NFL). 
Your receiving corps is highlighted by a Chicago Bear castoff tight end, who has, admittedly been very effective in recent years, and a disgruntled Steve Smith, who might not have the patience to wait for yet another project qb to develop.  Other than that, you're empty, no matter how optimistic you are about your unknown/inexperienced wide outs.  Maybe what you're hoping for is a lot of two TE sets, so you can pair the ancient Jeremy Shockey with the ancient Steve Smith.  This might actually be your best option.
No matter how good your defense was, you no longer have John Fox coaching, so the defense will undoubtedly take a step back in the new system.  John Fox, for all his faults, was  a defensive genius, building countless playoff teams out of running backs and defensive fronts.  Who knows how Ron Rivera's DC will fare, or how good of a coach he'll be.
Your running backs are fantastic, no doubt.  But last year, how far did you get with amazing running backs and no quarterback?  Here's the dealio, bub.  You are inserting a more fun offense into a team not talented enough to run it.  Chudzinski coached at SD, right?  Who's your vincent Jackson?  (Steve Smith?  Maybe...)  Who's your Antonio Gates?  (Greg Olsen and Shockey couldn't carry his cleats) And by God, who's your Phillip Rivers?  Chudzinski wasn't all that successful with some of the most talented players in the game.  How's he gonna win with these bums?
Finally, your most gaping hole is that you play in quietly the most talented division in the NFL, top to bottom.  That is, if the bottom wasn't you guys.  First, the Saints are being picked to win the super bowl by more than a few, and regardless are picked to challenge for the NFC title.  Atlanta has one of the best quarterbacks in the game, one of the best receivers in the game, one of the best running backs in the game, and one of the great defenses in the league.  And finally, the TB Bucs are the most underrated team in the NFL.  They were nearly a playoff team last year, and have just gotten more experienced and better through the draft.  Josh Freeman is quickly becoming the steal of his draft class, and if their running backs continue to overachieve, they will be playoff bound again. 
Face it: Brees, Ryan and Freeman.  Even if Cam Newton becomes all that his upside allows, he'll still not be as good as any of the quarterbacks in the division. 
Just pray that you win the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.  Too bad Ron Rivera wasn't smart enough to play for them.



Since: Oct 17, 2009
Posted on: August 8, 2011 2:05 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

WOW Johnnymac..... did you think that up all by yourself or did you have your momma write that for you.   Your intellect is just overwhelming.  Your arguments are so compelling.  I will have to re-evaluate my entire post.  

Oh one more thing.  You left your tricycle in the drive way again.



Since: Jul 6, 2007
Posted on: August 8, 2011 1:53 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

Idc what anyone says. The panthers sucked last year and they gunna suck this year too



Since: Oct 17, 2009
Posted on: August 8, 2011 1:42 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

The Panthers have one of the most talented teams in the league.   Those of you that think the 2-14 team you saw last year was because of lack of talent.  Stand By. 

The offense is going to be far more potent then anyone other than Panther fans can believe.  Cam Newton WILL BE ROY!!  Mark it down.  The threat of his legs will prevent defenses from doubling up Smitty.  With the addition of Olsen and Shockey the threat of Big Plays will be on the rise.   Jeff Otah is back at RTalong with RG Schartz, Kalil C, Wharton LG, and Gross LT. This is the same group that gave us the 1st  dual RB with 1200 yds in NFL History.  The offense WILL put up many more points than 2010.  Hate all you want but the truth will come out.

The Defense will DICTATE to the offense.  The days of bend don't break are over.  They will pressure from all over.  The LB Corp is arguable the best and deepest in the NFL.  Anderson, Beason, Davis starting with Gathier, Connor as backups.  Johnson, Hardy, Brown and Norwood will have a ton of Sacks. 

Discount the Panthers all you want.  This team is NOT going to be a pushover.  

Mark it down.  If Carolina gets out the gate 2-2.  This team will be in the playoffs.   Newton will be ROY.

Those that don't believe.  WATCH AND SEE



Since: Sep 19, 2009
Posted on: August 8, 2011 1:06 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

Sure, blame the coach. Wah, wah, wah.



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: August 8, 2011 12:56 am
 

Smith points finger at Fox for dwindling output

WR Steve Smith will never be the great WR he once was if he still stays with this horribly team, city, and fan base of the run down Panthers.


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