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Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

Posted on: August 15, 2011 9:17 am
 
Posted by Will Brinson

There are a number of folks that believe Lions defensive lineman and general manchild Ndamukong Suh is a "dirty" player. He got this reputation partially from two preseason games -- in 2010 he treated Jake Delhomme like a rag doll against Cleveland (he was eventually fined $7,500 after the NFL reviewed the hit) and then this past weekend he squeezed Andy Dalton so hard the rookie's helmet popped off.

Oh right, and for the hit on Jay Cutler that ended up costing him $15,000 last year. But Suh said Sunday that he doesn't believe he's "dirty."

"There's always a fine line of dirtiness and a fine line of aggressiveness," Suh said Sunday, per Carlos Monarrez of the Detroit Free-Press. "I know to this point that in my own heart that I haven't crossed that line by any means."

I've spoken to Suh a couple times and on occasion (one happened to be right after the Cutler hit), I've asked him about whether he plays dirty or not. And he always says the same thing -- he's not dirty. He's aggressive.

And I think there's an argument to be made for both sides. Suh's actions against Delhomme were clearly dirty, especially considering he extended the play beyond the actual contact with the quarterback (read: the sack). But I didn't feel like his "hit" on Dalton necessarily was "dirty" insomuch as it was "aggressive."

But Suh is -- quite obviously -- developing a reputation for being a dirty player. Whether or not he actually is won't matter when there's a call that's close.

Because in those situations the referees will continue to flag him and the league will continue to fine him. Although those hits may not matter much if Suh keeps playing as well as he does the rest of the time.

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Since: Jun 24, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2011 3:17 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

remember what it is like to celebrate a playoff victory.....oh wait, i dont think so. who was the only team that rams beat when they went 1-15, gee, let me think, oh yeah, it was the kittens, i mean lions. lions over performed last year and this season will be a regression to the norm for them. unfortunately, the rams share this same fate. stafford will not lead this team to the playoffs, period, no matter how many years you are talking about tard. lions may nto be the doorstop they once were, but niether are the rams. we can leave that to carolina and buffalo. two more season of injuries and the lions will draft another qb and ruin him too. the reason peyton and brady are so good every year is their offensive line, which didnt get improved from last season in detroit, but did in st louis (Harvey Dahl is a freakin animal). better o line will increase bradford and sjax's production this year, and the addition of the caddy to spell sjax, he will be even fresher throughout the year. after jbest hurts his toe again who totes the rock in detroit? jerome harrison or maurice morris, you choose, cause i promise there isnt a defense that will respect either of them

maybe detroit just has a crap training staff and thats why their players get hurt so much, im not sure of that but i do know that the rams will make the playoffs before detroit does. 




Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: August 16, 2011 3:31 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

And where did you see a 3 year prediction, because I didnt make one. If you look I said 5 YEARS you retard. Can you even read or do just choose not to and actually be that stupid on purpose?????



Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: August 16, 2011 3:25 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

Detroit beat Green Bay and they also beat Tampa Bay last season without Stafford, remember the winstreak we went on last season. St. Louis being better than Detroit is a complete joke, you are a homer. St. Louis went 7-9 in the weakest division EVER last season, yes EVER. Detroit went 6-10 in arguably the best division in the NFC, 2 teams in the NFCCG.  Chicago has no offense, we also beat them the opening game of last season, but the refs said Megatron didnt make the game winning catch, and everybody knows they got the call wrong. All I can say is we will see, we open the season @ Tampa, the same place we one last season without Stafford or either of his shoulders. Detroit has gotten better and they are going to continue to do so, I dont see us winning the division this season, especially if Green Bay stays healthy, but right now, the last team Green Bay lost to was DETROIT. And you can say all you want about Rodgers getting hurt just before halftime of that game, but he got hurt just before halftime and they scored 3 pts. at that point. We won 7-3, and they only beat us by 2 @ Lambaugh earlier in the season when Green Bay was healthy. I didnt say they are even going to the playoffs this year, but I believe they will get close and finish the season with at least 9 wins, with or without Stafford. If Stafford stays healthy, and I admit that is a big IF, trust me I understand that. But if he stays healthy our offense will be better than last year, and we have gotten better at the LB and CB positions on defense which is really what killed us last year. We were in every game last year other than against New England on Thanksgiving and that was a really good game until Brady got the offense rolling in the second half. To say they arent even close is just stupid. St. Louis BETTER than the Lions, hahahahahahaha, they MIGHT have a better record at the end of the season playing in the CUPCAKE division, and Detroit has a tough schedule playing against New Orleans, Tampa, and Atlanta, not to mention our own division, but it wouldnt shock me to see them win ALOT more than you expect. Have fun watching the "greatest show on turf" over their in the Nerf football division, do they even play tackle football in the NFC West. LMFAO, you are a Tool and an epic homer. I will have fun watching Seattle take that division again, St. Louis better than Detroit, you are either dilutional or drunk or both. 




Since: Jun 24, 2010
Posted on: August 16, 2011 1:46 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

@skillet - 
the lions are close to going deep into the playoffs???
hahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahhah

ahahahhahaha

i guess you forgot that the bears and packers are also in the nfc north.
NFC teams that are currently better than the lions include:
Tampa bay, St louis, Green Bay, Chicago, Philly, New York, New orleans, and Atlanta

not to mention the potential that the vikings may also beat them out in their same division, the cowgirls are probably better than them too, but i'll lump cowgirls, vikes, and lions all in the same category - that would be the category of NON-PLAYOFF teams that play in the nfc.
unless you know of some scheduling change the nfl is going to make to allow 10 teams into the playoffs from each conference, the lions will not make the playoffs within the next 3 years.

and btw, you should let stafford know that most people only have 2 shoulders, and they typically dont get anymore the rest of their lives, so he probably shouldnt use his all up before he turns 30. people tend to live longer these days as well. the guy probably wont be able to put on his own ballcap by the time he turns 45 from all the surgeries.    &
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Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: August 16, 2011 12:50 am
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

@lumpoco,

Barry Sanders lead the Lions to the playoffs 5 times. And who is the 49ers QB, maybe you should worry about the "great" Alex Smith. I just read that San Fran was looking into Daunte Cullpepper. LOL. I would take Stafford over Smith any day, even Harbaugh says he does not know who will start come game 1. Detroit has 2 and maybe even 3 qbs that in my opinion are better than Alex Smith. He may start Colin Kaepernick, hahahahaha. I dont think that will happen, but your "star" qb is being compared to a rookie that nobody has ever known. Bet if the Lions were in that cupcake division they would go to the playoffs every damn year. Seriously, I bet Detroit ends up with a better record, even though San Fran is in the easiest division in the league right now. And that is good bet, if your gonna come talkin smack about a team, at the very least, get your facts straight. The Lions went to the playoffs 5 times with Barry Sanders, once you write something as stupid as


"not even the great Barry Sanders could take the Lions to the playoffs"

Everything you said before and after that moronic statements is disregarded. The Lions problem was Wayne Fontes and Matt Millen, and Fontes has been gone for over a decade now, and Matt Millen has been gone for 3 years now. The Lions are on an upswing, and I think they will make some noise within the next 5 years. They are close to having a playoff team, AND possibly going deep into the playoffs. I doubt it will happen this year, but, especially if Stafford and everybody else can stay healthy, they will be a legitimate playoff contender soon.



Since: Oct 31, 2007
Posted on: August 15, 2011 9:17 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

They went to the playoffs FIVE times with Barry Sanders. Get your facts straight



Since: Aug 14, 2011
Posted on: August 15, 2011 7:33 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

Rodney harrison was agressive also. Lol. Suh is a dirty player no question .the man should use it to his advantage



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: August 15, 2011 6:01 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

There is a difference between a "tough" player and a "dirty" player. Unfortunately, that difference is so minute who can really tell the difference? Lions fans should worry more about Suh staying healthy than anything else...with the exception of developing better play at the QB position. Who is there QB? Matt Moore? Matt Stafford? Matt Stouffer? I suppose it does not matter because the odds are stacked against the Lions. Not even the great Barry Sanders could take the Lions to the playoffs.



Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: August 15, 2011 4:41 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

@frosy12,

Suh saying "i dont like qb's" has nothing to do with with Iraq or Afghanistan, I have no idea why you threw that in their. And I dont know if you have ever watched a Nascar race, but very seldom is there a race in which at least one driver says "I dont like the tires". Did you watch the Brickyard 400 in 2008 with the big tire debacle they had????? So, yeah, Nascar drivers say they dont like tires ALOT, almost every week one of them says it. I am not a plumber, but I imagine working with piped everyday year after year, I could see at leas one or two plumbers saying "I dont like pipes".

Point being, Suh was brought to the Lions to one thing, and that is sack the qb. Saying he dont like qb's, has nothing to do with him wanting the position taken out of the game. He gets paid to not like them and to cause as much havoc in the backfield as he can, THAT IS HIS JOB! And he does it pretty friggin good job of it. Also which era are you referring to in which everybody was so "classy" as you put it. Was it when the Raiders had Jack Tatum and many other knocking the snot out of every player that came within 5 yards of him. Or maybe it was when the Steeler had the steel curtain ending qbs careers for 10 years. Or maybe it was when the Vikings O-line was called the PURPLE PEOPLE EATERS. Was that the "classy" NFL you are speaking of????? 

Football has always been and always will be a violent and fast sport, no matter who they fine or how much $$ they fine them. Period. Suh is a beast, he WILL continue to be a beast and he should, because that is what the Lions pay him to do. I dont hear Shwartz saying Suh is a dirty player, thats because it gives Shwartz the biggest hard on in the world when Suh eats the qb. And I have watched every Lions game since Suh has been their, and I have never seen him lead with his helmet or dive at any qb's or rb's knees. He always wraps ppl up, just like he is taught to do. After he wraps them up he might throw them around a bit, but that is FOOTBALL. And I love it, and cant wait to see the season start, watch out NFC, thier IS a new dog in the fight, and they are called the LIONS!!!!!!



Since: Feb 14, 2009
Posted on: August 15, 2011 4:18 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh: 'I haven't crossed any line'

Won't be long before the chop blocks start coming.


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