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Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Posted on: August 17, 2011 10:11 am
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Eli Manning should plan to take plenty of hits (and jabs and uppercuts and left hooks to the body and right hooks to the face) for responding to a question this way about who else he would put in QB Tom Brady’s class:

"I consider myself in that class," Manning said on New York’s ESPN 1050. "And Tom Brady is a great quarterback, he's a great player and what you've seen with him is he's gotten better every year. He started off winning championships and I think he's a better quarterback now than what he was, in all honesty, when he was winning those championships.

"I think now he's grown up and gotten better every year and that's what I'm trying to do. I kind of hope these next seven years of my quarterback days are my best."

So, Manning probably will get slammed, because clearly Manning is nowhere near Brady’s class. You don’t need to break down film for a living to see that.

But other than that, I like Manning’s comments. He’s known as a guy who doesn’t say much of anything interesting to the media, so this (still relatively milquetoast) quote actually represents something special for Manning. He’s saying something relatively intriguing. The scribes who cover him should love that.

Also, if you’re a Giants fan, would you really not want your team’s quarterback to believe he’s one of the best? If Manning responded to the question in this way, “Well, you’ve got Brady and my brother and Ben Roethlisberger and etc.” and never mentioned himself, wouldn’t that be a cause for concern?

Initially, when I read this report, I planned to mock Manning. But that’s the wrong reaction. Even if he’s not a top-five quarterback right now -- and might not ever be -- I like that he thinks he is.

And even if he isn’t, isn’t he one of the best QBs who also played a fake cop on a commercial with a kick-ass fu manchu? I don’t think there’s any question about that.



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Comments

Since: Sep 10, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:16 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

If it weren't for one odd bounce and catch off a helmet, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. I suppose there's people out there who'd just as soon have Eli as Tom, or maybe even instead of Tom - they need to be medicated, and soon. G'wan witcha, Eli.



Since: Nov 21, 2010
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:16 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

When you rank team offenses and team defenses, you use yards.  The 2010 Giants had more passing yards than did the 2010 Patriots.  Is anyone going to dispute that?  This criteria alone means that the 2010 Giants passing game ranks higher than the 2010 Patriots.  Please point me to a media outlet which ranks team passing offenses on something other than passing yards.  Thank you.



Since: Apr 7, 2010
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:14 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Pats fan, and Eli is right.  He didn't say that he was as good as Brady is.  He knows better.  He said he's as good as the Brady of the early '00s, who (while clutch) did not carry the Patriots on his back the way Peyton Manning does the Colts every year.  He was a good QB in the clutch, and good enough to get them downfield most of the time.  It used to be a discussion of Brady vs Manning being rings vs stats, with Brady coming out on the short end on the latter until Moss and Welker came to town.  Eli has already shown he has that clutch ability of the old Brady (sadly against my Pats), and if he says he thinks he can get better I can't doubt him until it's all said and done.  I don't believe in my heart that he will ever stand as an equal with either Brady or his brother, but I'd take him over most QBs in the NFL.



Since: Oct 29, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:12 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

The Patriots offensive system made Matt Cassel look like Tom Brady in the year he took them to double digit wins.  So I really don't think Eli's opinion is that far off.  If Eli played in the Pats system, his stats would be very similiar......



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:12 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Quarterback is a position that absolutely requires confidence.  Any quarterback who doesn't answer that he belives himself to be in Brady's class should be suspect.  I'm no Giants fan, nor an Eli fan, but the kid has one a super bowl with a lot less around him than Brady has had.  Are his stats the same?  Of course not, but even at the most basic level, all NFL quarterbacks are in the same league.



Since: Feb 12, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:05 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Thanks for the huge laugh. Lol Lol Lol



Since: Feb 12, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:04 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Thanks. I needed a huge laugh. LOL LOL LOL



Since: Aug 17, 2011
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:02 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Sure he creates more turnovers than a french bakery, but as a Giants fan I don't want to hear even our most modest, boring player saying, "I'm a middle of the pack QB who is occasionally on par with Brady."






Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:01 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Dumb question, apparently Katzowitz is another writer, like Gregg Doyel, who is simply trying to stir controversy.  Manning is simply being honest...and he's right. Both are great QBs. Both have the undeniable career numbers to validate that status. Both are 1st ballot HOFers. They are the two dominant QBs of their era.    



Since: Feb 9, 2011
Posted on: August 17, 2011 1:54 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

The question was stupid. Eli gets slammed either way. "Who else is in Brady's class?". If he mentions himself, he sounds ridiculous, if he mentions other QBs and not himself, he looks like he's lacking confidence. This is another example of the Four Letter, creating news rather than reporting it. Want to bet that Michael Kay was a guest on "Dumb and Dumber in the Morning" the next day, talking about how Eli answered this question. I'm sure that Dumb spent a half hour breaking it down and Dumber sat there and repeated everything and wouldn't give an opinion.


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