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Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Posted on: August 17, 2011 10:11 am
 
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Eli Manning should plan to take plenty of hits (and jabs and uppercuts and left hooks to the body and right hooks to the face) for responding to a question this way about who else he would put in QB Tom Brady’s class:

"I consider myself in that class," Manning said on New York’s ESPN 1050. "And Tom Brady is a great quarterback, he's a great player and what you've seen with him is he's gotten better every year. He started off winning championships and I think he's a better quarterback now than what he was, in all honesty, when he was winning those championships.

"I think now he's grown up and gotten better every year and that's what I'm trying to do. I kind of hope these next seven years of my quarterback days are my best."

So, Manning probably will get slammed, because clearly Manning is nowhere near Brady’s class. You don’t need to break down film for a living to see that.

But other than that, I like Manning’s comments. He’s known as a guy who doesn’t say much of anything interesting to the media, so this (still relatively milquetoast) quote actually represents something special for Manning. He’s saying something relatively intriguing. The scribes who cover him should love that.

Also, if you’re a Giants fan, would you really not want your team’s quarterback to believe he’s one of the best? If Manning responded to the question in this way, “Well, you’ve got Brady and my brother and Ben Roethlisberger and etc.” and never mentioned himself, wouldn’t that be a cause for concern?

Initially, when I read this report, I planned to mock Manning. But that’s the wrong reaction. Even if he’s not a top-five quarterback right now -- and might not ever be -- I like that he thinks he is.

And even if he isn’t, isn’t he one of the best QBs who also played a fake cop on a commercial with a kick-ass fu manchu? I don’t think there’s any question about that.



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brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:53 pm
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Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:45 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

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Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:37 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

I still say he is in Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer's class...same talent level, less college success, same NFL value and credits...




Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:29 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Will somebody answer one question for me please ????


Tom Brady is a second to none Elite QB in the weak AFC East division - How much better than Eli Manning would he be if he played in the toughest division like the NFC East ?


The answer to that would say alot about where Tom Brady really stands as a QB in comparison to Eli Manning.

Except the toughest division is the NFC South.



Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:09 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

He's in the same class as Brady like I was in the same Chemistry class with the "wicked smaht" kids in high school..same room....VERY different status



Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:04 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

The only way that Eli will ever be in the same class as Brady is if he wins the same amount or more "ships" than him. People who might think Eli is better than Brady are either "die-hard" Giant fans,related to the Manning family.or are a fan of Eli. I understand that he should be confident in himself,but deep down inside he knows that he's not up there with Brady. Now as a top ten QB.I would say that he's anywhere between 10-15 and that's being honest. In a "dream world" I would like for Brady and Eli to switch teams and see how both of them would do......now that would be nice!



Since: Sep 8, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 7:38 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

"kicker won all 3 superbowls for them" whats that even mean? kicker wouldn't have had a chance without brady gettin thme downfield. eli manning SMH.



Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 7:19 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

frist of all i dont remember tom brady winning any supebowl  but i do remember  the kicker won all 3 superbowls for them ...  funny how that works out the kicker wins the games and brady gets all the credit...  how about the def i think they have the most to a team winning a championship



Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 7:15 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

redcofin, just stop.  You're argument is entirely flawed.  When you throw more passes than the other guy, you tend to throw for more yards as well.  However, if you're throwing 4 times as many interceptions, fewer touchdowns, completing a worse percentage, and building a lower QB rating, you're simply NOT AS GOOD.  When you are trumped in every single statistical quality (as opposed to volume category), you're NOT AS GOOD.  It's a joke of an argument, because Brady is the guy with more wins, yes.  He also has the lower ERA and more innings per start - if you're trying to use NFL stats that are largely within the QB's control.

Since total yards seems to be the only thing you're hanging your hat on, realize how incredibly inefficient it is to throw for the extra 102 yards Manning did last year on 47 additional throws.  Can you imagine that stat line for the game?  Maybe 12-47 for 102 yards.  Add in 21 interceptions in that game and you've figured out how Manning threw for more yards than Brady.

That said, I still don't think Manning was trying to say what a lot of people are interpreting.  This looks more like "we both won super bowls early, and just as Brady progressed into an elite quarterback, I think I'll be at that level in 7 years".



Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 7:14 pm
 

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

When did winning become a QB thing and passing yards become a team thing?  In baseball, Wins are an official stat for pitchers, but everyone knows that a pitcher with more innings per start and a lower era is better than a pitcher with more wins.  Why is this not analagous to football?

Winning isn't necessarily a QB thing.  Passing yards is not exclusively a team thing.  And comparing pitchers to QBs is ridiculous (in my opinion) unless they start letting the guy on deck blitz the pitcher...

You are trying to use ONE stat (conveniently the only one which favors Eli) and say that since the stat ranks a team's passing success, it also ranks the QB.  Wrong.  A QB is ranked primarily by his rating, of which passing yards is only a part.  Using that as as the generally accepted yardstick, Tom and Eli are worlds apart. 

Furthermore you are pulling one stat from one year.  The previous year, the stat was in Brady's favor - and more so.  The last 3 seasons both played, it was even more in Brady's favor.

I am not a fan of either QB, other than as a football fan I appreciate what both have done for their teams, and the sport.  Realisticly, the only people who would agree with you are Giant's homers or Brady haters.


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