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Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Posted on: August 17, 2011 10:11 am
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Eli Manning should plan to take plenty of hits (and jabs and uppercuts and left hooks to the body and right hooks to the face) for responding to a question this way about who else he would put in QB Tom Brady’s class:

"I consider myself in that class," Manning said on New York’s ESPN 1050. "And Tom Brady is a great quarterback, he's a great player and what you've seen with him is he's gotten better every year. He started off winning championships and I think he's a better quarterback now than what he was, in all honesty, when he was winning those championships.

"I think now he's grown up and gotten better every year and that's what I'm trying to do. I kind of hope these next seven years of my quarterback days are my best."

So, Manning probably will get slammed, because clearly Manning is nowhere near Brady’s class. You don’t need to break down film for a living to see that.

But other than that, I like Manning’s comments. He’s known as a guy who doesn’t say much of anything interesting to the media, so this (still relatively milquetoast) quote actually represents something special for Manning. He’s saying something relatively intriguing. The scribes who cover him should love that.

Also, if you’re a Giants fan, would you really not want your team’s quarterback to believe he’s one of the best? If Manning responded to the question in this way, “Well, you’ve got Brady and my brother and Ben Roethlisberger and etc.” and never mentioned himself, wouldn’t that be a cause for concern?

Initially, when I read this report, I planned to mock Manning. But that’s the wrong reaction. Even if he’s not a top-five quarterback right now -- and might not ever be -- I like that he thinks he is.

And even if he isn’t, isn’t he one of the best QBs who also played a fake cop on a commercial with a kick-ass fu manchu? I don’t think there’s any question about that.

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Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 7:03 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Will someone answer one question for me please ????
Well, since your question is "what if", I highly recommend calling the psychic hotline, because no one else can answer that.  It's all guesswork.

Since: May 25, 2009
Posted on: August 17, 2011 6:50 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Will somebody answer one question for me please ????

Tom Brady is a second to none Elite QB in the weak AFC East division - How much better than Eli Manning would he be if he played in the toughest division like the NFC East ?

The answer to that would say alot about where Tom Brady really stands as a QB in comparison to Eli Manning. 

Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 6:48 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

This story is so stupid.  I heard the interview, and the radio host is the one who brought up Brady, it was a complete set up question.  

Since: Aug 17, 2011
Posted on: August 17, 2011 6:47 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Eli is not even in the same class as Bobby, Peter, or Greg Brady.

Since: Apr 16, 2009
Posted on: August 17, 2011 5:22 pm
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Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 5:15 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

"First off I would take Cassell over Eli everyday"

Are you kidding??  Cassell was a career backup who had one good year in NE and one so-so year in KC.  He certainly was not the reason that team made the playoffs.  Their ground game was the reason and they are likely going to regress this year.  He is not as good as Eli because he has not carried his team to a Super Bowl.  You also mentioned Romo over Eli?  Maybe in fantasy but as a Giants fan, I do not think he deserves Top 10 billing nor am I going to make excuses, but Romo is good at times. He does not play well in cold weather in December and January and is the least clutch QB perhaps in the league.  He fumbled that snap in Seattle, threw a pick in the Giants playoff game when they were supposed to play NE in the Super Bowl, he played horribly in Philly when a win would have gotten them in the playoffs, and then 34-3 drubbing in Minny a year later.  He is like Brett Favre Jr. except the real thing was much better.  He throws into coverage way too much because he picks the predictable targets each time to throw to (T.O. and Witten and now Austin, Bryant, and Witten but no one else). I am not going to make excuses as an Eli and GIants fan for the 25 INT's a year ago, but most of them were not his fault.  They were balls that should have been caught by the receivers who deflected them to the defender.  Also, I am so sick of the Pats should've won that game.  Brady got his butt whooped by the Giant defenders in that game and was very uncomfotable and forced to make bad throws ALL game.  Eli led not one, but TWO scoring drives in the 4th quarter with his team TRAILING.  Maybe Brady is the only other QB who has led clutch drives like that in the playoffs.  While I think Peyton is a better QB, he is not in the clutch.  And as for that pick, it was not a gift because it was beyond Asante's reach.  If you want to blame anyone for the Pats losing that game, blame your offensive line who did a terrible job protecting Brady and Rodney Harrison.

But about Matt Cassell.  He won 11 games with the same group of players that went 16-0 the year before.  Because he had Randy Moss and Wes Welker and Bill Belicheat as his coach, his job was made easier.  He was not asked to lead the team like Brady and even like Eli has to do in NY.  And to say Bradford and Freeman are better than him after one season?  YOu have to be kidding.  Unless they had a rookie season like Albert Pujols or Magic Johnson, then you could talk to me.  BUt neither of these QB's made the playoffs.  Sure, they had nice rookie seasons, but Bradford played in a lousy division and Freeman just missed out because of tiebreakers.  Neither has played or WON a playoff game for that matter, so before you go ahead and say that either is better, let them develop.

Also, passer rating is not a stat you can always go by.  Some QB's that are considered great do not have such great career ratings.  Bradshaw, Namath (who has more INT"s than TD's), Aikman are examples.  Romo has a better career rating, but is he considered better than Aikman or Bradshaw?  Absolutely not. 

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 4:33 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

Eli is 1-0 vs. Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady is 0-1 in Super Bowls without cheating. Eli was being humble.Tongue out

Since: Aug 17, 2011
Posted on: August 17, 2011 4:20 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

I'd agree with Eli but then we'd both be wrong

Since: Feb 7, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 4:10 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

What Eli should have said:

My brother & Tom are in a class by themselves, however there are a lot of good qb's out there, including myself who are not afraid to battle them.  Infact we look forward to beating them.

Well said....he actually DID beat Brady.

Since: Nov 21, 2010
Posted on: August 17, 2011 4:08 pm

Eli thinks he's in Brady's class ... good for him

The QB of the 10th ranked passing team from 2010 thinks he's in the same class as the QB of the 11th ranked passing team from 2010... good for him.

What am I missing here?  Do we need to change the way we rank team passing?  Did some other quarterback start some 2010 Giants' games of which I'm not aware?  Did Manning throw mostly screen passes, where the receivers ran for most of the yards?

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