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Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

Posted on: August 31, 2011 8:26 am
 
Dan Pastorini is upset with the way he feels been treated by the NFL and the NFLPA (US Presswire).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Dan Pastorini is mad. He’s mad at the NFL owners. He’s mad at the NFL Players Association. And he’s mad at Drew Brees.

“F--- Drew Brees,” Pastorini said.

Pastorini is mad at the way he feels he and his former NFL compatriots have been treated, and though Brees isn’t the true villain in this movie, he’s also an easy target for something he said two years ago.

Pastorini looks at the new CBA deal and figures out how much more money he’ll receive as a player who retired before 1993. He remembers how much he made when he was playing quarterback for the Oilers, Rams, Raiders and Eagles from 1971-82. Then, he thinks about the NFL Players Association and the NFL owners -- and the labor fight for which he couldn’t participate -- and his blood boils.

He gets mad, really mad, and he lets loose on a rant in which he places blame on both sides who he believes simply doesn’t care about the men who helped build the NFL into what it is today.

The $620 million “Legacy Fund” added to the new CBA for the players who retired before 1993 that will be used to increase pensions? And the $300 million in other benefits, including those for health? It’s simply not good enough for Pastorini. Not good enough for how much he says he sacrificed.

“I’m going to get an extra $1,000 a month. Big f------ deal,” the 62-year-old Pastorini told CBSSports.com recently. “I think it’s a travesty the way they treat the older players. I’m part of that group. They’re throwing us a bone with the $620 million. By the time they get to a new CBA after 10 years, they won’t have to worry about us pre-93er’s. It’s sad, but it’s their M.O. They want to wait for us to die.

“What they’re talking about now is to give us a bone and to shut us up. It’s just wrong. It’s damn wrong. And the players association is just as greedy as the owners are, if not more so. The players don’t go to bat for us, which makes us ashamed.”

And what Brees said in 2009 when discussing retired players who complained about their benefits -- as recounted here by CBSSports.com’s Mike Freeman -- really upsets Pastorini.

“There's some guys out there that have made bad business decisions,” Brees said then. “They took their pensions early because they never went out and got a job. They've had a couple divorces and they're making payments to this place and that place. And that's why they don't have money. And they're coming to us to basically say, 'Please make up for my bad judgment.' In that case, that's not our fault as players."

It might have seemed Brees was talking directly to Pastorini, who’s had to declare bankruptcy twice and has been divorced after ending his one-time Pro Bowl career. Clearly, Pastorini feels that Brees -- who is making $7.4 million this year and could be the next quarterback to win a $90 million contract -- made it personal.

“My first year’s salary was $25,000, then $30,000, then $35,000,” Pastorini said. “These guys make my first contract in a game. Look at (former NFLPA executive director) Gene Upshaw and what he left his wife when he died? How did he leave her $15 million? They’ve been screwing us from day one. My pension was $1,100 a month, then $1,200, then $1,400, and now it’ll be $1,750. No medical, no disability -- $1700 doesn’t even pay for my rent.”

Not surprisingly, the NFL has a slightly different opinion.

Said NFL spokesman Greg Aiello in a statement to CBSSports.com: “We respectfully disagree with Dan.” The NFLPA declined comment on the issue.

But let’s look at the other side of the story. Before the newest CBA, the Legacy Fund didn’t exist. The NFL and the NFLPA are both contributing at least $300 million over the next 10 years to add more money for former players. If it’s $1,000 more a month for a retiree, that’s $1,000 more than that former player had before.

And though Brees’ statement continues to backfire on him and the union, those close to Brees says he was one of the retired players’ biggest advocates in trying to give back to the players who came before him -- and to get everybody to understand the importance of doing so. Witness a radio interview he gave last April to XX 1090 in San Diego.

“I know that I’m fighting for so many people here, for former players in the form of improving their pensions and disability benefits to take care of those guys that built this game for us and future players too,” he said. “To be honest with you, this is one of those things that when a settlement is reached, that settlement is something that I’m probably never going to benefit from. It’s guys before me, it’s guys that are going to come after me. So for me, there’s so many guys that made sacrifices before us to make this game better.”

Dan Pastorini with Bum Phillips, Wade Phillips and Bob McNair (Getty). Pastorini (second from the left in the photo to the left) has good reason to want better medical benefits as well. With so much newly emerging information about chronic traumatic encephalopathy, Pastorini is worried that he’s going to be suffering from the dementia-like condition if he lives long enough.

“I’ve been to clinics. I’ve been put on vitamin regimens. I find myself not remembering people’s names,” said Pastorini, who said he sustained at least a dozen concussions when he played. “I’ll go to the kitchen for a cup of coffee, and I can’t remember why I went in there. It’s possible I have that. I won’t know until they cut my brain open.”

Pastorini isn’t alone in his thoughts. During Super Bowl week in Dallas, the NFL Alumni held a press conference that featured former players who were fighting -- and outspoken in their demand -- for better pension benefits and long-term health care.

But in reality, what can the NFL and the NFLPA say to fully satisfy the league’s alumni? Probably nothing, and to their credit, both sides feel like they’ve tried to improve the conditions for the retirees. But to Pastorini, it’s just not good enough.

“There’s a lot of greed in this business,” Pastorini said. “We’re the guys on the outside looking in, and we’re never going to be compensated for what we do. We built the game, and these guys should be kissing our ass now. But they’re not.”

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Comments

Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2011 3:27 pm
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

You take the risks to play football, my friend. I love how they love to complain after they've made a living playing a child's game. You get no sympathy from me. Get a college degree and work for a living. There are plenty of people way worse off than you football players. Bunch of pansies. If you can't handle the it, don't play--it's that simple. It's common sense that a game where you beat on each other relentlessly will have some repercussions down the road. Stop the whining already.



Since: Dec 19, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2011 1:39 pm
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

And here we thought only the current generation was selfish and greedy and entitled! He was well compensated for what he did at the time he was doing it-it's that simple. Yes, it would be nice to see the NFL step up and give millions to these ex-players on top of the millions they are already receiving, but that is not reality. Everyone would love more money and benefits, but that's not reality. As far as the current players and owners being responsible for his decisions and poor management of funds and opportubities, i call BS! Should i go back to Burger King and demand more money and benefits for my contributions twenty years ago because they currently pay their employees better? It's ridiculous! Guess what buddy, i can't afford 1700 for rent either! Which is why i live in a modest home that has a 850$ mortgage, and i live just fine! Business is business. How much did he fight for ex-players benefits while he was playing? How much of his money did he wisely invest for the future? How much money did he waste on sports cars and lavish living? Hell, how much did he actually work after football? Welcome to the real world of hard working, underpaid regular joes!



Since: Aug 23, 2011
Posted on: September 5, 2011 1:18 pm
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

I really get tired of these guys complaining on how hard their lives are. Cmon there are alot of people in this country who live on a whole lot less.
In the time that they played football they made plenty of money to set them selves up with a pretty nice retirement. If they made poor decisions
or failed to consider the future it is no ones fault but their own. Drew is right. Get off your a** and do something or live within your means like the rest of us have to do. Get over yourself P-man take some responsibility for yourself and quit expecting everyone else to support you. Thats what the rest of us have to do.



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: September 5, 2011 12:34 pm
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

Well, so what about his post-NFL investments?  The players then didn't get compensated adequately for what they did, period.
You, of course, mininterpreted the data at hand.  You prove that with your ill-informed, parroting spew about "entitlement nation".

Side note Sparky:  anybody parroting ill-informd garbage such as "entitlement nation" is not showing their BRILLIANCE, it's showing you're just another mindless tool of the right wing media spew/lie machine and probably a TeaPartyHOBBITT.  (smirks)




Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2011 11:27 am
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

If a player truely has a disability or medical conditions linked to football they should be taken care of.  Thats where it ends.  If $1700 doesnt pay for Dan Pastorini's rent, then he needs to downsize.  What has he been doing since his football career ended.  He mensioned what he made in the first years of his career.  What did he make at the end of it. Has he lived responsibly as Drew Brees generally questioned of players complaining about their pensions.  A google search reveals the following:

- He was part of an ownership group that was trying to bring Labourghini to an American racing circuit

- He was involved in a sppedboat racing accident that killed two in which he entered into a 1.5 million dollar settlement with the families

- After a Boys Club charity function Dan Pastorini's "white Mercedes" rear ended a toyota tacoma, not while it was stopped, but while it was traveling, pushing it onto oncoming traffic and causing a 3 car accident.  Pastorini was charged with Driving while intoxicated,  failure to control his speed and driving without a licence.

- look at his work experience at linked.  He has an ample work history to pay his bills.  

Dan Pastorini is a case study in our entitlement nation.  People want others to subsidise their irresponsibility.

You can shut up now Dan.  



Since: Jan 25, 2011
Posted on: September 5, 2011 10:25 am
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

"At-will" employment is a ginned-up framework devised by management and its lawyers and lawmakers to strip workers of every possible opportunity for redress. This is a truly anti-democratic paradigm and is part of the overall "race to the bottom." It is dressed up in a false framework of "libertarianism" that only solidifies ecomomic power in the hands of ownership and management.

"You don't like it? Leave." is a pi** poor way to treat anyone, in virtually any social situation.
Perhaps Corporations, now defined as a "person" could take the responsiblity upon itself to act like a person in a civil society. Fat chance.

"At will" employment protects both the company and the employee, but that is a long discussion for a different venue. My point in referencing the "At will" aspect was that Mr. Pastorini accepted the offer of employment knowing full well what was the extent of the offer.  


  I would have to agree to some extent that "you don't like it? Leave" is in most cases a pi** poor way to treat people. Unfortunately it happens everyday in corporate America and I would assume around the world. Businesses change directions and philosophies to meet the ever changing environment they compete in and employees (including management and owners) need to accept that change or move on.  This does not apply in Mr. Pastorini's case as "he liked it, he agreed, he played (well below average) and then he retired".  It is my understanding that the league has and continues to fulfill the obligations to past players based on the agreements that were made at the time of current standing contract; anything else the league does beyond that would be a bonus. Could the league do more in regards to health care for retirees? I would say "yes" as it is the right thing to do. Is the league 
"OBLIGATED" to do more... NO! 

 



Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2011 4:01 am
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

Dan is envious of the current players' salaries, end of story.  He's jealous that he didn't earn millions upon millions as a sub-par QB in the NFL.   It's not like in the 70's retirement was guaranteed and now all of a sudden it's not.  I don't care who you are, you need to plan for your own retirement.  $1700 doesn't pay your rent? Too bad, guess it's time to pack up and downsize. The only thing he's entitled to is his opinion, which he clearly expressed.  




Since: Jun 23, 2010
Posted on: September 5, 2011 1:07 am
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

The Question is who is Dan Pastorini?????



Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: September 4, 2011 11:00 pm
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

Wow, you self entitling SOB.  F*** Brees?  No sir, F*** you.  30K was a more than comfortable salary back then was it not?  Sure I agree some of the older generation is due a lot for medical expenses, but you are a whiny little beyotch.  1700 doesn't cover rent?  Where you living?  I had to google this fool as I've never heard of him and he has the stones to say that?  He isn't qualified to hole Brees' jock strap.  I will patiently sit and wait for you to die....



Since: Jan 1, 2011
Posted on: September 4, 2011 7:37 pm
 

Dan Pastorini feels let down by NFL, NFLPA

I am a houstonian and remember all too well when he was the oilers QB. Had the best Back (Earl Campbell) and still couldnt get it done.He sucked then and he sucks now.


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