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Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

Posted on: September 21, 2011 8:05 pm
FortePosted by Josh Katzowitz

As’s Ryan Wilson pointed out in this week’s version of Coach Killers, Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz’s play-calling was slightly off-balance last week. In that of the Bears' 63 plays run on offense, Chicago compiled 52 pass plays.

But that percentage, which coach Lovie Smith has dissected and has claimed will move closer to 50-50 this Sunday, might not only get Smith fired (or, more likely, Martz). Apparently, it’s also indirectly inflamed Matt Forte, who has 324 total yards through the first two games (that ranks him second in the league behind Carolina’s Steve Smith).

Forte told reporters, via CSN Chicago, that he believes that the Bears think he is not an elite player, and that’s why he hasn’t received the long-term contract he feels he deserves. And while we assume Forte is talking about Bears general manager Jerry Angelo, he could also be mentioning Martz and his desire not to run the ball.

"I'd like to get paid off of the production," Forte said. "When you look at the production and what level that's on and you look at some of the guys who are producing and what they get paid, it's not that hard."

Detractors, I suppose, could point to Forte’s 117 total rushing yards, which ranks him 17th in the league, and claim that Forte isn’t running the ball effectively. But his total offensive production would make that claim dubious.

Forte -- who will make $600,000 in the last year of his current deal -- has made it known for quite some time that he wants more money, and in the offseason, it seemed like the two sides were closing in on a new deal. In fact, Forte even said, “I think we're going about it the right way.”

Forte obviously doesn’t feel that way anymore.

I’m not saying Martz is the one to blame here, but perhaps Forte is correct: maybe the Bears don’t believe he’s the player that he believes that he is. Either that, or he’s saying that to put pressure on Chicago to come to a deal.

Either way, Forte is not a happy man, but for now, there doesn’t appear to be much he can do about it.

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Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: September 22, 2011 11:02 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

Jerry Angelo has alway said that the Bears reward thier own first.  Will Jerry reward one of the few draft picks that you have had that have actually played well and has earned it.  It's finally time for Jerry to pay up! 

Since: Sep 4, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 11:01 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

It would be too simple to say Angelo is a terrible GM, which he is, so I will instead focus on Matt Forte. I say give him a contract based on performance. He's a great player. But here's the catch. Very little guaranteed money. If he wants a contract based on performance, then he should get paid OR NOT PAID by what he does. That means if he plays terrible, guess he's losing some money. It just blows my mind how athletes argue this all the time. I'd buy it if they suggested what I just said, poor play equals discounted payments.

Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: September 22, 2011 10:50 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite


Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: September 22, 2011 9:58 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

Matt Forte needs to focus himself on the Bears - as a team - and not his contract, which is not even expiring this year! All he seems to be focused on is that he didn't get enough carries to bolster his stats, so he can hold the Bears hostage on his renegotiation. How about this - how about focusing on blitz pick-up. I'm in no way blaming Forte for the fiasco in New Orleans. That blame rests clearly on the shoulders of the coaching staff - Lovie Smith, raise your hand for not adjusting the game plan during the game, but rather saying after the game that some adjustments are needed. How about coaching the team, you know, DURING the game. And Mike Martz is an egomaniac that wants to shove his Kurt Warner / Marshall Faulk / Isaac Bruce / Tori Holt / Orlando Pace offense onto a team with no one that compare to any of those guys. Jay Cutler needs to have a strong running game in place to support his strength, which is play-action passing. That brings us back to Matt Forte. No - you are not an elite back. But, you are a good back, and in this offense, you could really help this team alot. Just stop focusing on your contract, and your stats, and your leverage against management, and at least pretend to be a team player in a team sport, and on Sunday, when Clay Matthews blows past Frank Omiyale, do your team, and Jay Cutler a favor, and chip him out of the pocket.

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 8:41 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

I have said for years Jerry Angelo is one of the worst GMs in football. Sad to say but as a Bears fan the worst thing that happened to us was the NFC Championship last year. Buys Lovie and Angelo more time and they need to go. From narrowly avoiding tampering charges with Julius Peppers. To mortgaging our draft for two years for a QB that we refuse to put any protection around. Cutlers not the problem. We haven't given him one legitimate target or any o-line. You need a wr to build rapport with. All we did this offseason was sign everyone else`s first round busts and pick up the scraps from a 7-9 Cowboys team. Roy Williams is a joke and we only signed him for 1 year so Cutlers looking at a new guy again next year. How bout Barber who they let go for durability reasons, hows he faring? And Vernon GHolston didn't get out of training camp. Granted we don't have to pay him, but why not sign people that can actually help the team. WE lose Forte good luck. Love are defense but you can't build a team just signing d-linemen every year. Bear Down forever. I love this team. Wish those responsible did too.

Since: Sep 11, 2008
Posted on: September 22, 2011 8:20 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

Angelo will F##& it up.  Thanks Forte for the memories.

Since: Jun 22, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 6:46 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

I think maybe Jerry Angelo should go watch the game tapes.....Forte is our ENTIRE offense....without him out there we are a joke on offense.

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: September 22, 2011 3:06 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

"Here is a guy playing a high risk position that deserves to get paid... " High risk also means high risk to the team for paying out for a position that typically declines quickly and suddenly and without warning.

Since: Sep 7, 2009
Posted on: September 22, 2011 2:11 am

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

You know what's not Elite?  The Bears offensive line.  This dude gains yard with a crappy front 5.  Pay this man and fire Mike Tice and get you some people who can protect the quarterback and block.  

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 21, 2011 11:18 pm

Forte thinks Bears believe he's not elite

Here is a guy playing a high risk position that deserves to get paid... He is definitely an elite dual threat RB and deserves to be paid like one.

He will get paid. All he has to do is have one more good season like he did in 2010 of 1 thousand yards rushing, 500 yards in receptions and a 4.5 yards per carry average.   As long as he can back that up for his final season I guarantee you somebody will pay him.

The Bears are getting a steal for $600,000 and should have done the right thing and re-upped him a year or two ago. 

And the Bears got robbed by Cedric Benson when they signed him to a deal that included 17 million in guaranteed money.  They could only use him for 3 seasons and he regressed every season in Chicago.  He was never worth what he got paid.    What you want is for owners to burn on bad contracts but re-up as you put it for good players.  One has to offset the other, that's how successful businesses operate.

There are players who abuse the pay system (and just as many owners) but everyone should agree that Forte should get a huge raise, and that its long overdue. Pay the man.

Not even ONE owner has EVER abused the pay system in the NFL.  Every single owner honors each and every deal they put their signature on.  They honor every penny of GUARANTEED dollars, every single time.  Some players get close to 100 percent of their contracts guaranteed, some get 75 percent and some are only guaranteed 50 percent.  Some are guaranteed nothing at all except to be paid for the games they play.  But nobody says they have to agree to those deals.   Believe me, the great players and most starters get plenty of guaranteed money in the NFL.  Either way if they are good enough they can demand more, don't sign the deal until they are happy. 


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