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Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

Posted on: October 16, 2011 2:43 pm
Edited on: October 16, 2011 2:56 pm

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Longtime Raiders owner Al Davis died last Saturday and now the team is in the control of his wife, Carol, and his son, Mark. And it's Mark who is seeking the counsel of others outside the organization as he searches for a general manager.  Specifically, he has spoken with John Madden, Ron Wolf and Ken Herock, three NFL veterans who all worked at various points for the Raiders, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports.

Al Davis had spoken with Madden about returning to the franchise he once coached to help Mark run the team, but Madden told the New York Times last week that Al Davis never actually asked Madden to come back.

"You knew he was having problems but he was better that week than he was the week before," Madden told the Times. "He had trouble speaking and drinking. But it's Al Davis and he'd fight it. His mother lived to be more than 100 and I thought he'd fight and live to be 100."

Madden also told the paper that he spoke with Davis the night before he died and considered the face of the Raiders -- for good and bad -- "family."

"He was my best friend," Madden said, via the Times. "If I had one call to make, if I needed anything, the call would be to Al Davis. I lost the one-call guy, the mentor, the father, the best friend."

Wolf was the Packers' general manager in the 1990s, and Herock worked as a personnel director for three NFL teams, including seven seasons he spent in Oakland.

The day after Davis died, Oakland beat the Texans in Houston in a game that came down to the final play. Sunday is the first Raiders home game since Davis passed away.

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Since: Aug 8, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:58 am

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

Players respect Madden, and that may be the best reason to make him GM.  All teams rise and fall, the Raiders are on the rise and Madden's experience will facilitate that.

Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 3:05 am
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Since: Aug 30, 2009
Posted on: October 17, 2011 12:31 am

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

little sausage, well, thats what your lady calls you right? Come out to a raider game and see what happens. You lady says you play dress up with her clothes, she says you cant even bottom out in her tiny little cooter. Youre a fake ass fan and I hop you get leg whipped on the way to the bathroom tonight

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: October 16, 2011 8:12 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

Madden may not be who Mark has in mind to run the team as a GM. Only Al would think that made sense.

But he is likely someome Mark would trust and a source to help get a feel on front office people in the game.

Madden knows a lot of people in the biz and might be there to help add someone (outside of the Davis circle) the Davis family could trust.

So I would think Madden as VP or consultant who assess the GM hire with the family.  And I feel with only a little more input than Wolf or Herock.

Since: Jun 12, 2010
Posted on: October 16, 2011 8:10 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

I have to laugh at 2 things from you post. First that a bears fan can even consider any other team a laughing stock and 2nd that you go by the monicker of big sausage. you are obviously lacking somewhere, and most of us know where. The Raiders are on the rise again and you are jealous.
You are correct about John Madden. but remember he is a Raider thru and thru. never coached anywhere after leaving the team. that's what a true Raider does. Who better to counsel the team than someone who is loyal to the organization and has been around to gain a perspective on the league as whole.
Good call Mr. Davis. 

Since: Dec 26, 2010
Posted on: October 16, 2011 7:25 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

I agree. What could it possibly hurt? The Raiders have been in disarray for close to a decade now. Madden might not be as sharp on the ball as he used to be as he used to be in doing live broadcasts but I'm sure his strong organizational skills can surely assist an organization whose hierarchy was simplistic and two tier.

There was Al Davis at the top, then everyone else.

Davis' lifelong hands on experience running every facet of the game gave him the pedigree to do that, but he appeared to lose some edge while he presided over the team's decline since '03 and they're in sore need to restructure and modernize their management. It's a good sign that they're seeking someone consultation from someone from the outside, be it Madden or whoever. There were times during their decline that I felt Davis' insistence on his way of doing things created an insularity that the team suffered from unnecessarily. A fresh perspective from the outside can only be a good thing.


Since: Nov 11, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2011 4:52 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

Some people look at everything in a negative light - the glass is always half empty.  Everything sucks!  Madden sucks. Al Michaels sucks. Their replacements suck. MNF sucks.  I wonder what you do for a living and how many people, once you have left for the day, say that you suck.

Since: Oct 8, 2006
Posted on: October 16, 2011 4:45 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

Knock Madden all you want but he has forgotten more about football then most would ever know.  At this point what would it hurt, the Raiders are and have been the laughing stock of the NFL along with it's owner. The glory day's are long gone but at least their fan's can still play dress up.

Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2011 3:52 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

No knock on Madden at all, but I am really not sure how much an old guy with Alzheimer's can help the team. He was a genius in his time but as made painfully obvious from his last telecasts, he's no longer the same man. Pretty sad sight really.

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: October 16, 2011 3:51 pm

Report: Raiders seek Madden's counsel

Madden left the game a long long time ago. He can't even do play by play any more. Madden left what, 1980's, sat in the booth and did MNF for so long. He's been out of that gig for awhile now and it just got old listening to him drone on and on. Al Michaels got to be just as bad. It's why neither are on MNF. Their replacements aren't any better though.<br />

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