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Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 4:23 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Yesterday's incident at midfield between Jim Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz led everything sports-related all of Sunday night and continued through Monday morning. The randomness of the anger between the respective coaches of the 49ers and the Lions shocked everyone and sparked a slew of discussions about who would be the best coach to have in your corner for a steel-cage death match.

But maybe Harbaugh's outburst and Schwartz anger wasn't as random as it seems.

Perhaps, instead, we can trace the incident to a dinner in March of 2011 that featured Schwartz, Harbaugh and Ravens coach (and brother of Jim) John Harbaugh. John relates that, at the dinner, Schwartz essentially told Jim if the lockout continued, he would be unable to win as a head coach. This didn't sit well with Jim.

"We were having dinner the other night and Jim Schwartz told him basically there’s no way you’re going to be able to get it done (if the lockout lasts into the summer)," John Harbaugh said, per the Santa Clara Press-Democrat. "He told him there’s no way you’re going to be able to accomplish what you need to accomplish in two weeks if this thing lasts a while.

"Jim just kind of bit his tongue, which is what you’ve got to do in this situation. Because there’s nothing you can do about it."

In other words, it's pretty obvious that Jim drew a big, fat Sharpie-style circle around the October 16 matchup in Detroit.

And then there's some additional evidence of how things escalated during the game yesterday -- Chris Chase of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner pulled the video of the first-quarter touchdown that Brandon Pettigrew caught, a play which was challenged by Harbaugh.

Obviously, you can't challenge a scoring play. Harbaugh forgot that, and Schwartz definitely let him know, screaming something like "Know the rules!" across the field.

So it's possible (likely?) that such exuberance preceded Harbaugh's celebration. But it also seems likely that this is a feud that's been brewing for longer than just the brief moments before their post-game handshake.

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Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 8:14 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I see these posters commenting on "unwritten handshake etiquette" and "handshake protocol" and I can't help but wonder if these guys are thinking about what they are saying.  Seriously, someone didn't do the postgame handshake right?  You really want to argue the intricacies of the post game handshake?  Is there anything more frivolous in the world of sports?

Yeah, Harbaugh was obnoxiously exuberant, and Schwartz responded about as poorly as he possibly could have.    

Since: Dec 27, 2010
Posted on: October 17, 2011 8:11 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

This is rediculous...Swartz made too big of a deal about it...Harbaugh didn't need to explain himself...I'd rather see them throw punches than try explaining their dis-dain for each other...the media is making a mountain out of a mole-hill here...not many coaches like each other at the end of the day...

Since: Dec 28, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:44 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

May the Schwartz be with you.

Since: Nov 12, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:43 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Schwartz is all to blame here. He is a hypocrit about the "protocol" in the NFL. He screams and curses at players and refs, jumps up and down when he wins, and then make snide remarks about the other teams at his press conferences. Harbaugh was just excited, and yes, maybe the back slap was a little much, but get over it Schwartz.....

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Since: Mar 31, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:40 pm
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Since: May 24, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:22 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

though i do think harbaugh was kind of pompous in the post-game press conference, the first thing i thought was schwartz was looking for something to be a bitch about b/c he was sore about losing the game...i mean, he didn't avoid your handshake altogether, he slapped your hand hard and gave u a slap on the back, too.  just take your medicine schwartz, everyone gets amped up in different ways...& the worst part was schwartz sprinting after him and chest bumping him...that's embarrassing.

Since: Sep 7, 2009
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:21 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I like the comment that the lions SHOULD be 3-3.  So now we have to go by records of first half play and not count comebacks, close games, or maybe game winning field goals.  That just sounds really stupid.  Both coaches look bad in this but Harbaugh sounds like a baby having his brother rationalize this from a dinner months ago talking about preparation.  All the nonsense aside both teams are look good and I hope they meet in the playoffs, you couldnt script it any better.

Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:21 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Its pathetic that this is the coverage that this game gets. Is this a mans sport? Seems like a bunch of chatty women in the media... Great win by the 9ers and a great game all in all. Its good to see that these franchises are becoming relevant again. It is sad, as professional sports jornalists, that this is all the media has to write about.

Since: Jan 16, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:20 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I agree 100% no real story here.

As a Jim Schwartz and a Lions fan  but also a U of M Grad. I am also happy to see  Jim Harbaugh enjoy success and quite frankly, I like their enthusiasm and fiery nature.  I think that the San Fran and Detroit fans are lucky to have these two guys leading our teams rather than the recycled coaches from the NFL coaching carousel.

Since: Mar 14, 2010
Posted on: October 17, 2011 7:17 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Stupid story all caused cause Schwartz had a hissy fit after losing. When you're cocky and yell across the sidelines you need to learn how to deal with a loss; Yes you're having a great year but no reason to act like an idiot when exciting things happen. I blame it all on schwartz cause when he went on his little chase down he got hardly a reaction from Harbaugh as he's screaming about nothing the picture in the article shows it all pointless drama.

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