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Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 4:23 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

Yesterday's incident at midfield between Jim Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz led everything sports-related all of Sunday night and continued through Monday morning. The randomness of the anger between the respective coaches of the 49ers and the Lions shocked everyone and sparked a slew of discussions about who would be the best coach to have in your corner for a steel-cage death match.

But maybe Harbaugh's outburst and Schwartz anger wasn't as random as it seems.

Perhaps, instead, we can trace the incident to a dinner in March of 2011 that featured Schwartz, Harbaugh and Ravens coach (and brother of Jim) John Harbaugh. John relates that, at the dinner, Schwartz essentially told Jim if the lockout continued, he would be unable to win as a head coach. This didn't sit well with Jim.

"We were having dinner the other night and Jim Schwartz told him basically there’s no way you’re going to be able to get it done (if the lockout lasts into the summer)," John Harbaugh said, per the Santa Clara Press-Democrat. "He told him there’s no way you’re going to be able to accomplish what you need to accomplish in two weeks if this thing lasts a while.

"Jim just kind of bit his tongue, which is what you’ve got to do in this situation. Because there’s nothing you can do about it."

In other words, it's pretty obvious that Jim drew a big, fat Sharpie-style circle around the October 16 matchup in Detroit.

And then there's some additional evidence of how things escalated during the game yesterday -- Chris Chase of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner pulled the video of the first-quarter touchdown that Brandon Pettigrew caught, a play which was challenged by Harbaugh.

Obviously, you can't challenge a scoring play. Harbaugh forgot that, and Schwartz definitely let him know, screaming something like "Know the rules!" across the field.

So it's possible (likely?) that such exuberance preceded Harbaugh's celebration. But it also seems likely that this is a feud that's been brewing for longer than just the brief moments before their post-game handshake.

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Comments

Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2011 5:14 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I don't care about either team... but I was watching the game (have Calvin Johnson).  Why wouldn't Harbaugh call a time out there and buy additional time for the refs to see all the angles?  In the end, the 15 yard penalty was on the kickoff.  With the new kickoff spot at the 35 leading to many touchbacks, the only difference was how far out of the end zone it was going to go.

Meanwhile... with the new field position, the Lions could have tried the onside.  What's 20 yards to have a 33% chance of getting the ball back?  But they didn't, so the red flag didn't cost anyone anything important.



Since: Nov 23, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 5:13 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I think Harbaugh knew full well it was not challengable but instead through the red challenge flag to emphasis his discust with the ruling on the field and that it was not overturned in the automatic review.  Cost him a penalty but point was made.



Since: Nov 24, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 5:03 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

As a headcoach in the NFL, Jim Harbaugh needs to show a little more class than that.  Is it difficult to, for 3 sec., stop rubbing it in and shake the mans hand like a gentleman (professional)?  After that, go back to acting like a rookie player jumping all over the place over a W in week 6.  JH showed to the nation that even Head football coaches in the NFL can act like immature children.  So sad.  Having said that, the Lions coach chasing him across the field and chest bumping him was retarded also. 



Since: Sep 1, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 5:03 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

The funniest part of all this? Jim Harbaugh's apology. You can just see him mocking the entire situation as well as Jim Schwartz. Good for Harbaugh. I don't blame Schwartz for being pissed, but at the end of the day, Schwartz did undermine him.

Losing makes everything seem worse, especially when your team is playing very well and knows they lost a game they should have won.




Since: Apr 10, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:52 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

2 Grown Men ,


Grow the hell up !






Since: Jun 2, 2009
Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:49 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Jim Schwartz acted like a little child there.  Remember when men used to toss the fist's around a little bit and that was that?

We are all going to be women soon.  If we aren't already. 



Since: Oct 29, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:46 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

You can't challenge a scoring play because they are AUTOMATICALLY reviewed, and it is a penalty to even throw the flag in that situation. The Niners were flagged, so it might be true that Harbaugh didn't know that (I didn't!). GREAT WIN!



Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:46 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

You're just like Jim Harbaugh Corona... Learn the damn rules!!  Just kidding... new rule change thsi year says that all scoring plays are automatically reviewed.  There is no need to challenge them because if there was smething obviously wrong with the call the referee will get buzzed from the replay official.



Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:40 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I believe all scoring plays are automatically reviewed, so that would be correct.


corona79
Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:35 pm
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