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Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 4:23 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Yesterday's incident at midfield between Jim Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz led everything sports-related all of Sunday night and continued through Monday morning. The randomness of the anger between the respective coaches of the 49ers and the Lions shocked everyone and sparked a slew of discussions about who would be the best coach to have in your corner for a steel-cage death match.

But maybe Harbaugh's outburst and Schwartz anger wasn't as random as it seems.

Perhaps, instead, we can trace the incident to a dinner in March of 2011 that featured Schwartz, Harbaugh and Ravens coach (and brother of Jim) John Harbaugh. John relates that, at the dinner, Schwartz essentially told Jim if the lockout continued, he would be unable to win as a head coach. This didn't sit well with Jim.

"We were having dinner the other night and Jim Schwartz told him basically there’s no way you’re going to be able to get it done (if the lockout lasts into the summer)," John Harbaugh said, per the Santa Clara Press-Democrat. "He told him there’s no way you’re going to be able to accomplish what you need to accomplish in two weeks if this thing lasts a while.

"Jim just kind of bit his tongue, which is what you’ve got to do in this situation. Because there’s nothing you can do about it."

In other words, it's pretty obvious that Jim drew a big, fat Sharpie-style circle around the October 16 matchup in Detroit.

And then there's some additional evidence of how things escalated during the game yesterday -- Chris Chase of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner pulled the video of the first-quarter touchdown that Brandon Pettigrew caught, a play which was challenged by Harbaugh.

Obviously, you can't challenge a scoring play. Harbaugh forgot that, and Schwartz definitely let him know, screaming something like "Know the rules!" across the field.

So it's possible (likely?) that such exuberance preceded Harbaugh's celebration. But it also seems likely that this is a feud that's been brewing for longer than just the brief moments before their post-game handshake.

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Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:54 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

You know what bothers me most about an altercation like this? It's that there is no resolution and no accountability. First, I wish when things like this happen that the NFL would just set up a cage match between the coaches. Let them see what the other guy has. Stop talking smack if you're just some football brain with no balls to back up your big talk. See how well you can lead once your team finds out you're a that the tongue in cheek part is over--my real issue is this.

How do you expect your players to stop costing you games when you can't even hold your temper after a game? How can you coach people to use controlled aggression to accomplish the job when you go off like a ticking time bomb? Ask anyone who has worked for a boss like that. They'll tell you it gets old and undermines their motivation. Harbaugh may have been a punk to do what he did, but that was controlled aggreesion. I'm sure he would have rather cold-cocked Schwarts than shake his hand, but he didn't. Leaders need to lead by example. If you want hot heads who make mistakes that cost you games, Schwartz, you are on the right track.  

Since: Jul 24, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:36 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

You guys are missing the whole point.  this was a proclamation to the world that there will be no easy handshakes in Detroit anymore.  In previous years losing coaches would display sportsmanship, and slink off into the night after losses.  Jim Schwartz understands that the path to a champion starts with making the other team fear the handshake.  It will be in their head the whole game.  Every coach in Detroit will have to think about those post game handshakes and it will distract them.

Jim Schwartz is an innovator, his handshaking distraction theory is cutting edge stuff.


Since: Feb 17, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:33 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

It was an entertaining game between two surprise teams.  I'd rather focus on that.

Since: Jan 12, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:32 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Haha! His brother is a loser because you got smoked by the Ravens and Rapelisberger threw, what, 17 Picks? It must suck seeing the demise of the Steelers happen right in front of your eyes. I feel for you, I really do.  Wink

Since: Jan 12, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:26 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

What a sore loser. I'm sorry, I have seen midfield meetings 1000x worse than that and no reaction. Jim Schwartz can dish it out but can't take it in. Your team finally played a decent team, and lost. In your own house. You want to be a pompous jerk? Don't expect peaches and cream when you come across people you've been a jerk to. The comments at the dinner and the video of him smirking and yelling across the field after the challenge flag are a pretty good indication of what kind of person he is. All Harbaugh should have said was "I'm 5-1 in my first year in the league, how did 2-14 work out for you?!"  Laughing

Since: May 31, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:24 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Clearly Harbaugh was the instigator on Sunday ... his post game handshake move was 100% Punk ... frankly I would of been very disapointed in any opposing coach who did not take offense.  To me where Schwartz may have gone too far was when he insisted on making a second run at Harbaugh.... maybe Harbuagh said something additional that was very inflammatory (we don't know), but I think Schwartz had already clearly registered his dispeasure in Harbaugh's punkish behavior and should of done a better job controlling his anger - saving it for a likely rematch in the NFC playoffs.   <br /><br />

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:07 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

What a waste of news space this whole story has been.  Harbaugh's handshake and pat on the back may have been a little over zealous but Schwartz just lost it like a poor loser.  The pat on the back knocked Schwartz over like a NHL or Soccer player taking a dive.  It looked like he went to the Valde Divac School of flopping.

Mr. Schwartz, Please hit the leg press and grow some balls so you do not fall over when the wind blows.

Since: Jun 22, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:04 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

So it's settled. Schwartz is the d-bag, although I doubt it rises to the level of challenging psychic John Edward as the Biggest Douche in the Universe.  Does anyone agree that if this had escalated into a full blown scuffle, Harbaugh would have mopped the floor with Schwartz?  Not THAT would have been entertaining.

Since: Mar 14, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:03 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Non-news item.  Schwartz was a jerk.  Harbaugh was a jerk.  It was in the heat of the moment after a highly contested game.  Story over.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:56 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Both Harbaugh's are jerks.

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