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Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 4:23 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

Yesterday's incident at midfield between Jim Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz led everything sports-related all of Sunday night and continued through Monday morning. The randomness of the anger between the respective coaches of the 49ers and the Lions shocked everyone and sparked a slew of discussions about who would be the best coach to have in your corner for a steel-cage death match.

But maybe Harbaugh's outburst and Schwartz anger wasn't as random as it seems.

Perhaps, instead, we can trace the incident to a dinner in March of 2011 that featured Schwartz, Harbaugh and Ravens coach (and brother of Jim) John Harbaugh. John relates that, at the dinner, Schwartz essentially told Jim if the lockout continued, he would be unable to win as a head coach. This didn't sit well with Jim.

"We were having dinner the other night and Jim Schwartz told him basically there’s no way you’re going to be able to get it done (if the lockout lasts into the summer)," John Harbaugh said, per the Santa Clara Press-Democrat. "He told him there’s no way you’re going to be able to accomplish what you need to accomplish in two weeks if this thing lasts a while.

"Jim just kind of bit his tongue, which is what you’ve got to do in this situation. Because there’s nothing you can do about it."

In other words, it's pretty obvious that Jim drew a big, fat Sharpie-style circle around the October 16 matchup in Detroit.

And then there's some additional evidence of how things escalated during the game yesterday -- Chris Chase of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner pulled the video of the first-quarter touchdown that Brandon Pettigrew caught, a play which was challenged by Harbaugh.

Obviously, you can't challenge a scoring play. Harbaugh forgot that, and Schwartz definitely let him know, screaming something like "Know the rules!" across the field.

So it's possible (likely?) that such exuberance preceded Harbaugh's celebration. But it also seems likely that this is a feud that's been brewing for longer than just the brief moments before their post-game handshake.

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Comments

Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:49 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Detroit has far more talent than San Francisco
Then why did't they win?

The 49ers benefit from being in the worst division in the history of football.
Really? look at their schedule,  So far they've played - Seattle, Dallas, @ Cinncy, @ Philly, Tampa Bay, @ Detroit.. With the exception of Seattle,  which one of these games is a benefit for being in the worst division in football.
Still on their schedule is @ Washington, NY Giants, @ Baltimore, and Pittsburgh...yea, their really benefitting!?!?!

They are good up front on both sides of the ball, but have virtually no talent at the skill positions other than Vernon Davis. 

What A crazy statement...you think Vernon Davis is their only and best skill player?
Have you heard of Frank Gore?

They'll get beat by 40 in their 1st playoff game.



Really...you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Their defense is extremely good.



Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:21 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Steel_City_Fan wrote: "It shouldn't surprise anyone how classless Harbaugh is. It runs in his family. He's an arrogant winner and a big time sore loser just like his brother in Baltimore."

Speaking of a "big time sore loser," it seems like the Steelers' 35-7 loss to Baltimore bothers you a little too much.  Steelers' fans are generally pretty class fans. What happened to you?




Since: Jun 9, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:01 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

so wrong....Lions played terribly and still almost won.  Detroit has far more talent than San Francisco.  It isn't even close.  The 49ers benefit from being in the worst division in the history of football.  Their QB is a fraud.  They are good up front on both sides of the ball, but have virtually no talent at the skill positions other than Vernon Davis.  They'll get beat by 40 in their 1st playoff game.




Since: Aug 14, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:17 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

It shouldn't surprise anyone how classless Harbaugh is. It runs in his family. He's an arrogant winner and a big time sore loser just like his brother in Baltimore. 

  



Since: Aug 18, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:47 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

First of all......theres no way Detroit can call themselves 49er rivals. Only the Rams and the Cowboys will EVER be true 49er rivals. Second, Jim knew the rule and threw the flag anyways because he didn't want to burn a timeout. What did he lose? Yards off the kickoff, BFD. Kicks were going out of the endzone anyways so who freakin cares. 



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:32 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Coach Schwartz is the one that didn't follow protocol. A handshake is a handshake. Schwartz was the one on video to shout the first obsenity


How did I know you were a 49ers fan before I even looked at your profile? Would you like to spout some more useless bull?  I've been a fan of Harbaugh for a long time because he played at UM, but the dude is an immature idiot sometimes. That's a fact.



Since: Aug 23, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 3:40 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I love what Jim is doing with the 49ers but he has to calm down when it is time to shake hands.  If the fact that Jim (Schwartz) told Jim (Harbaugh) he couldn't win if the lockout lasted past the summer then you can understand Harbaugh's happiness.  Schwartz should worry about a running game to close out games.  You have to be able to chew up the clock when you are leading in the 4th quarter.  The lion's have no running game and it cost them against the 49ers.  Harbaugh has to show a little more class at the end of games because what goes around comes around.  I know one thing, the 49ers have a rival and it's not in their division.  What's going to go down when they meet in the playoffs?  Can't wait!!!Cool



Since: Nov 25, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:59 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I FREAKING LOVE IT!! NFL needs more hatred and rivalries. This leagues is getting way to soft, this is great. If you don't like it, go watch g-rated movies.



Since: Feb 23, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:30 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Both coaches had no class????? Coach Schwartz is the one that didn't follow protocol. A handshake is a handshake. Schwartz was the one on video to shout the first obsenity...and chase down a coach. please!!! The best NFL QBs die for the moment of 4th and goal with a few ticks left to win it.. Whats barely scored mean? Breaking the plane of the goal line is SIX as any TD in the NFL. What's missing with Detroit is a run game to expire the clock, Hanson missed a critical FG and Best suffered a concussion @ some point in the game, still you gotta get a lead, some kind a lead 1 pt or 7 or 2 td lead and run the clock out.

Harbaugh knows this team and what they can and cannot do. Punting and field position is part of it along with Gore taking a 30 carry load and Alex throwing down field if needed. Thats my take of the Niners. And yah you'll hear oh they play in the NFC west the worst of the NFL divisions well what can the Niners do about their division.  


Harbaugh is Harbaugh since starting as a qb coach for the Radiers, a Head Coach at Univ. of San Diego and Stanford Univ. and as a player a hardnose competitor just as an opposing coach watch what you say, either bring it or watch it bite you in the A**!    



Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:18 am
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Besides their defense, special teams and running game...


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