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Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 4:23 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Yesterday's incident at midfield between Jim Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz led everything sports-related all of Sunday night and continued through Monday morning. The randomness of the anger between the respective coaches of the 49ers and the Lions shocked everyone and sparked a slew of discussions about who would be the best coach to have in your corner for a steel-cage death match.

But maybe Harbaugh's outburst and Schwartz anger wasn't as random as it seems.

Perhaps, instead, we can trace the incident to a dinner in March of 2011 that featured Schwartz, Harbaugh and Ravens coach (and brother of Jim) John Harbaugh. John relates that, at the dinner, Schwartz essentially told Jim if the lockout continued, he would be unable to win as a head coach. This didn't sit well with Jim.

"We were having dinner the other night and Jim Schwartz told him basically there’s no way you’re going to be able to get it done (if the lockout lasts into the summer)," John Harbaugh said, per the Santa Clara Press-Democrat. "He told him there’s no way you’re going to be able to accomplish what you need to accomplish in two weeks if this thing lasts a while.

"Jim just kind of bit his tongue, which is what you’ve got to do in this situation. Because there’s nothing you can do about it."

In other words, it's pretty obvious that Jim drew a big, fat Sharpie-style circle around the October 16 matchup in Detroit.

And then there's some additional evidence of how things escalated during the game yesterday -- Chris Chase of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner pulled the video of the first-quarter touchdown that Brandon Pettigrew caught, a play which was challenged by Harbaugh.

Obviously, you can't challenge a scoring play. Harbaugh forgot that, and Schwartz definitely let him know, screaming something like "Know the rules!" across the field.

So it's possible (likely?) that such exuberance preceded Harbaugh's celebration. But it also seems likely that this is a feud that's been brewing for longer than just the brief moments before their post-game handshake.

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Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:51 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

This is silly, really. Both coaches showed no class. My take of the game is the 9ers barely won the game--they were down to their final down (4th down and goal--and they barely scored).  They should be thrilled to come away with a win.  Besides their defense, they did not look like the better team...but the final score showed they won.  I have a feeling this game is a harbinger for things to come later in the season (baring injuries from either team).

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:49 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

the 49ers are CLEARLY a better team then the Lions on all fronts.... offense, defense and special teams. in evidence to how bad the offense played...the penalties....turnovers... and still managing the win.

i chalk it all up to Detroits Homefield Advantage.

it was the only thing that kept this game close at all.

if this game had been played in San Fran - it would not even have been close.. the 49ers would have won handidly ...30-17.

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:23 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I dont think thats a reach, the dinner that is.  Harbaugh is a " I can do it" kind of guy.  And he doesn't like
being told he can't do something.  That dinner, along with Schwartz's silly comments after the 15 yard penalty
can account for the .....I'm shaking your hand, now get out of my way...hand shake.  Even if it was just new coach exuberance after a close win Schwartz acted like a putz.  He acted like a "poopy baby" in the post game interview.  Harbaugh is I'm sure right
now preparing the team for the next game and could care less what any of us say.  He won at USD, brought Stanford to
national prominence, and now has the 49s on a roll in a weak division.  So please in my book he gets a pass.  And I tell
you what they, like it in the bay area!!

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:20 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Since: Apr 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:14 am

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

@eyecantsayno:  "At least he didnt run onto the field and punch a player" ...who's "he"?

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:57 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

That's a reach on a March 2011 discussion over dinner. You'd thiink Harbaugh himself would have to want that as an out just in case nothing went right. Harbaugh was a solid NFL QB and nearly went to a Super Bowl in the mid 1990's. He knows how to win at the NFL level, but knows Cinderella can end as every game that even a playoff level 49ers team would face would be potentially midnight. 49ers are on a roll. This might be the spark that is similar to Montana and rge turn around we saw for the 1981 49ers ? I know, way ahead of it all, that this 49ers team would be compared with the 80's teams that won 4 SB's. But let's face it, 5-1, it has to be on everyone's mind. Their defense, allowing fewest points for 6 games in the NFL. There's a few that have only played 5 games with fewer total points, the Steelers have played 6 games and allowed 5 more points, so they are in good company.

Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:54 pm
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Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:44 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

If there was this much dislike Schwartz shouldve had his team more prepared for the GAME not the HANDSHAKE..While everyone is reviewing the tape they are all watching the shake when the real action had ended the important action. I dont care if they drop kick each other after games as long as my team wins!! To much is being made into this and in hte end it is Schwartz that looks bad and after a loss too which stings worse..Get your head in the game Coach and go out there and WIN.

Since: Mar 20, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:33 pm

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months


Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:31 pm

"You call that a push?"

"I'll show you how to push!!!" screamed Schwartz, running down the field, exhibiting perfect pushing technique.  And it's just that kind of attention to detail, even after a game is over, that makes Schwartz the maniac he is.

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