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Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Posted on: October 17, 2011 4:22 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 4:23 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

Yesterday's incident at midfield between Jim Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz led everything sports-related all of Sunday night and continued through Monday morning. The randomness of the anger between the respective coaches of the 49ers and the Lions shocked everyone and sparked a slew of discussions about who would be the best coach to have in your corner for a steel-cage death match.

But maybe Harbaugh's outburst and Schwartz anger wasn't as random as it seems.

Perhaps, instead, we can trace the incident to a dinner in March of 2011 that featured Schwartz, Harbaugh and Ravens coach (and brother of Jim) John Harbaugh. John relates that, at the dinner, Schwartz essentially told Jim if the lockout continued, he would be unable to win as a head coach. This didn't sit well with Jim.

"We were having dinner the other night and Jim Schwartz told him basically there’s no way you’re going to be able to get it done (if the lockout lasts into the summer)," John Harbaugh said, per the Santa Clara Press-Democrat. "He told him there’s no way you’re going to be able to accomplish what you need to accomplish in two weeks if this thing lasts a while.

"Jim just kind of bit his tongue, which is what you’ve got to do in this situation. Because there’s nothing you can do about it."

In other words, it's pretty obvious that Jim drew a big, fat Sharpie-style circle around the October 16 matchup in Detroit.

And then there's some additional evidence of how things escalated during the game yesterday -- Chris Chase of Yahoo's Shutdown Corner pulled the video of the first-quarter touchdown that Brandon Pettigrew caught, a play which was challenged by Harbaugh.

Obviously, you can't challenge a scoring play. Harbaugh forgot that, and Schwartz definitely let him know, screaming something like "Know the rules!" across the field.

So it's possible (likely?) that such exuberance preceded Harbaugh's celebration. But it also seems likely that this is a feud that's been brewing for longer than just the brief moments before their post-game handshake.

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Comments

Since: Jan 18, 2009
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:22 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Schwartz only did this so that the talking heads and the fans, would talk about something other than his team getting shut down in there own house. As far as everyone talking about how this is Jims superbowl take a look at Schwartz after every game he won. Lets not forget BAM MOTHERF*CKER



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:18 pm
 

What the?

Harbaugh whoops it up, slaps Schwartz's hand and his back. Schwartz doesn't like it.  OK. Fine.  That's where it ends for non-psychopaths.  But if you want to make a deal out of it, why not chase Harbaugh down the field and jaw at him?  Oh, he gives as good as he gets?  I guess you wouldn't have heard anything Harbaugh said if you had went your own way instead of chasing after him.




Since: Jun 4, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:12 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

For those of you who just saw the replay at halftime of MNF, you can see that Jim Harbaugh definitely shoved Schwartz.  It was not a "hard handshake".  I totally think Schwartz made himself look like as ass with the escalation. But Bill Cowher said he would have chased Harbaugh down too.  You don't put your hands on someone and shove them and think they are going to walk away.  I wish Jim Schwartz had more composure, because that was embarassing, but I challenge any of you guys who would just sit there like a girl and let someone push you like that.
I am not defending Schwartz, but I can't say I wouldn't have punched Harbaugh in the face.  This is coming from a Michigan alum.  Harbaugh pushed his luck that time.  He was counting on Schwartz to just take it.



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:09 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Sorry, but Harbaugh has a history of being an arrogant jerk, antagonizing opposing coaches, even shamefully criticizing his alma mater merely to gain publicity. He' s a great coach but has a lot to learn about class. Harbaugh was basically forced to apologize as other coaches felt he behaved poorly. Both coaches swear, and I am quite sure that the dinner conversation mentioned in this article had more to it than the bit that was quoted. Harbaugh probably had just finished telling everyone at the table how he was going to kick all of their butts this year because of the lockout. Whatever the case, how childish of Harbaugh to harbor resentment for months and then pull his snotty little handshake debacle.
Though I agreee, this incident is 100% on Schwartz without a doubt.  No one gets that angry about a back slap and a profanity.  Puh-lease.  I don't buy anything you spin about "harboring a grudge" and any debacle associated with the fairly normal hand-shake belongs with Schwartz.  So I guess that means as bad as Harbaugh is, Schwartz is worse.

Keep in mind I am a Saints fan and don't have a dog in this hunt.



Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:04 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

I bet if Mike Tomlin was the other coach no chance Harbaugh pulls that. 



Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:29 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

"It sounds like this was Harbaughs superbowl.. was just another game for the Lions"

Yeah... losing IS pretty common for those Lions.



Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:21 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Sorry, but Harbaugh has a history of being an arrogant jerk, antagonizing opposing coaches, even shamefully criticizing his alma mater merely to gain publicity. He' s a great coach but has a lot to learn about class. Harbaugh was basically forced to apologize as other coaches felt he behaved poorly. Both coaches swear, and I am quite sure that the dinner conversation mentioned in this article had more to it than the bit that was quoted. Harbaugh probably had just finished telling everyone at the table how he was going to kick all of their butts this year because of the lockout. Whatever the case, how childish of Harbaugh to harbor resentment for months and then pull his snotty little handshake debacle.



Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:21 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

"It sounds like this was Harbaughs superbowl.. was just another game for the Lions".
Oh, pull-eeze.  You Kitty-Kat fans might want to temper your enthusiasm a tad.  Your team has
sucked for a VERY long time.  You might want to save a little of your exuberance for when you actually
win something.   Your coach overreacted.  Lost his composure.  Behaved badly.  Looked like a fool. 
Deal with it. 



Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:16 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Oh, please.  Get real.  Remember, Kitty-Cat fans, your team has sucked for a VERY long time.
You might want to temper your enthusiasm a tad until you actually WIN something.   



Since: Oct 28, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:14 pm
 

Harbaugh-Schwartz feud's been stewing for months

Hammer-22, you nailed it, pun intended.  From the little I've seen of Schwartz prior, he is the biggest jerk to walk the sidelines in the NFL in recent memory.  I can't recall a coach jawing with players from other teams.  Harbaugh's action was a reaction to something else.  This dinner conversation is a load of hooey, a group of coaches certainly can discuss the ins and outs of the work slowdown without getting pissy at the dinner table.  But for Harbaugh to celebrate like he won a playoff game, there was surely something bigger going on between the two.  Harbaugh said something to Schwartz and Schwartz lost it.


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