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Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:44 am
Posted by Will Brinson

As everyone knows, Bears running back Matt Forte would like to get paid. And Chicago does not want to pay him. But according to a report Tuesday, there are other teams that would love to give the running back top dollar.

Two teams, in fact, according to the Chicago Tribune, have had "internal discussions" about trading for Forte. And Forte appreciates that.

"I'm glad teams are interested," Forte said. "For me to be out here working as hard as I do and not have a contract extension, you kind of get that feeling of being unappreciated. I just hope that when this year is over and I play as well as I've been playing, that if the Bears don't reward me with a contract, another team will.''

A couple of things here. One, "internal discussions" by other teams mean absolutely nothing. Hell, 20 minutes ago, my wife and I had internal discussions about trading our place for a $6 million house in the near future. (In other words, just because two other teams like Forte doesn't mean the Bears will ship him away -- he literally accounts for more than 50 percent of their offense.)

Two, the Bears still have the franchise tag available, so Forte shouldn't bank on getting paid just quite yet.

"It kind of doesn't make sense," Forte said of the franchise tag, per the Trib. "If they don't want to pay me that type of money, why would they use the franchise tag, which is basically paying me that ($8 million) in one year?"

Well, they would do that to avoid giving a running back a long-term deal and then seeing him struggle while making a pile of cash, which is precisely what happened to Chris Johnson and DeAngelo Williams so far in 2011.

And three, how many times is this guy gonna mention that he wants to get paid? He's got most of the media saying it -- me included -- for him and fans hanging signs at Bears home games. Everyone knows he wants more money -- repeating his desire once a week seems a bit redundant and not particularly team-oriented.

Speaking of Williams, Forte's believed to want less than the Panthers "franchise" back, and would take about $8 million a year. Given his production, that's a reasonable price for the running back, and if someone -- the Broncos are trading fools lately -- would give up a first- or second-rounder for Forte, a trade could always happen.

Just don't expect it to go down today.

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Since: Dec 10, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:22 pm

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

... in breaking new, the Raiders just gave up their first round draft picks from 2014-2024 to land Forte

Since: Aug 7, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:14 pm

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

Mc Nair was under contract, Wiseguy. Is that what you felt about the owners then? Agents should insist that at the end of the year players in skill positions must be paid according to the percentage of offense they provide the teams. They also should have the right to not be treated as Mc Nair was. The Lions may be a likely trade partner and a welcome employer. Sound fair? Don't want him? Cut him.

Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:09 pm

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

Forte should get paid.  He is the only constant on the Bears.  He works hard can run with acceleration and take it to the yard, doesn't fumble and has caught more passes and gained more pass catching yards than any other running back since he has come into the league.  He accounts for more than 50% of the Bears offense.  Since he came into the league only Chris Johnson and Ray Rice have accounted for a hirer percentage of their teams offense.  The Bears are notoriously cheap and make idiotic personnel decisions.  Lovie's cover 2 is outdated and no longer a premier defense in the NFL.  If the Bears don't pay Forte than Jerry Angelo should be fired the minute Forte walks out the door.  To his credit Forte has mentioned his displeasure and still played hard despite his comparatively low salary.  He is a true professional and the fact he answers questions from the media about his contract situation does not diminish his professionalism.  Anybody looking at the Bears lately knows players are disgruntled and making all sorts of demands, like Lance Briggs.  The fact Forte keeps getting asked about the issue while playing so well seems to me to be more of any indictment of the Bears than Forte.  See how much respect the Bears get when they franchise him at the end of the year.  But that's the Bears and that's why they'll never be a premier team over the long run.  That and the fact that Angelo is GM and he can't draft top talent in Rounds 1-3 even if Ted Thompson from Green Bay gave him a cheat sheet.

Since: Aug 7, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:01 pm

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

How many contracts have been terminated in your knowledge of the NFL. Does Mc Nair mean anything to you? Agents should include in contracts players should get paid according to how much of the offense they provide and playing it out and using up your body makes no sense wiseguy'. Players have to protect their assets because the owners don't give a dump. Can't afford him? Don't think he's worth it? Green Bay may bite. That would truly be fitting and then there's the Lion's. Screw "da bears" Forte,  because I'm sure you see what's in store for you. Players seem to be the only one's who honor contracts. All owners are grads of 'Screw U'.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:38 am

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

 Every conract in the NFL is a one year contract because the teams can cut you at any time forgoing payment on the remainder of your contract that is not guaranteed. As long as management do not have to honor contracts then the workforce should have that same right.

You're wrong, the owners always honor contracts. The CBA the players agreed to and signed off on says the owners only have to honor every penny of GUARANTEED MONEY.  The same CBA the players AGREED TO says the players have to honor THEIR CONTRACT COMPLETELY, GUARANTEED AND NON GUARANTEED MONEY.   What part of that is so hard to understand?    If the players think it's so unfair, then sit out a season or two or three to get your way.  But the bottom line is owners are following the CBA and honoring contracts just as they agreed to...

There are just as many busts the owners burn on as their are Forte's in the NFL the owners save money on...... the first round busts pre rookie cap for all these years that sucked got guaranteed money,,, big money.  Some busts took home 10, 20 and even 30 or 35 million dollars and sucked the whole way.  Who reimburses the owners for those losses?   So you're saying the owners should burn on all the busts and lose their money to these busts, yet always renegotiate deals with NFL players that "outplay" their current deals?  How can that be fair? How can it be fair to burn for millions or 10's of millions when a player sucks yet rip up deals every time a player does well??  You guys obviously have no business sense at all or you wouldn't say stupid things like this. 

Stallworth got a 3 million dollar roster bonus a couple weeks before he went to jail and got suspended for a season for killing somebody drinking and driving.  Who paid his employer back?   Arthur Blank paid Vick a ton of money, roster and signing bonuses, etc.   Why don't you ask Blank what his cut of Vick's bankruptcy settlement is his....  Haynesworth was on Washington, collected a 23 million dollar roster bonus and then decided he didn't feel like playing well or getting in shape for the Skins..... when do they get their money back?  The Lions paid Joey Harrington 25 million dollars to suck..... I could go on and on and on but I'll stop....

The bottom line is one cancels out the other,,, the owners can't lose everywhere.  It Forte's case I actually think he should get an extension because his contract is up in about 10 or 11 weeks, he's playing great football and he didn't hold out.  That is why he's worth it to me... as for other players that hold out?

Screw them.... 

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:26 am

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

I wish there was a way to put writers on ignore on this site.  I'd block off Brinson.  Doyel and Freeman are funny clowns, Brinson is just really stupid.

Since: Oct 16, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:17 am

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

Trade him to the Bucs - ironically Bears' opponent this coming week in the U.K. 

A 1-2 combination with LaGarrette Blount as the running force, and Forte pass catching option will be reminiscent of the 1-2 duo the Bucs had over th years with Alstott and Dunn.

Bucs have been very conservative in free agency for a good reason.  But this a trade worth making, for no other reason than 32 year old Ernest Graham is the team's only healthy RB.

Since: Oct 15, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:05 am

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

Forte has the right to speak his mind.. i often say players should shut up and play, but after seeing what the NFL owners are doing i say speak your mind.  If he gets hurt tomorrow, his contract will be worthless.  THe bears should have given hime a salary bump and said we will make it long term at the end of the seasono and stick by those words.  The NF owners speak with forked tongue.....

Since: Mar 5, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:23 am

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

It wont happen but I'd love to see Jerry Jones step up and make a trade.  Felix Jones can't stay healthy and would be better suited as a change up back with a guy like Forte!

Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am

Teams have 'internal discussions' on Forte trade?

My guess is he is not the one bringing it up.  How would Forte know that two teams were discussing trading for him.  Some idiot reporter most likely got wind of it and brought it up to him.  The same goes for all the other talk.  Yeah, the best thing for him to say would probably be something like "I don't want to talk about that now I want to focus on my game and the season" but as long as he is not going out and hosting press conferences and calling reporters etc. I don't see a problem with addressing the questions if they are brought up by others.  Besides, he deserves a new deal.  I wouldn't mind seeing him traded though.  As a Packer fan it hurts me to have one of my favorite non- packer players play for the enemy.  I am just thankfull that I don't like Adrian Peterson or Felix Jones.

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