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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.'s Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.

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Since: Sep 29, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:21 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I would have been happy to see him "retired".  You sign for $115 million - honor your deal.  To many whiney millionaires - and working middle class America is not impressed.  Palmer's charachter now is with the Raiders - it fits.  He's a decent QB and better than most still.  He became disfunctional as the Chad Johnson, TO Show came to town and polluted the "team".  Good riddance.  My #9 Jerseys are for waxing the car now.

Palmer called Brown - he was desperate, the Raiders were desperate.  Cincinnati wins on this one.  Though the Raiders now have a quality QB - as long as they can protect him.  It didn't work out well for the last guy.  Oops!

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:48 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Contrary to what some of you are saying, Mike Brown DID blink first, he DID cave in.
Of course he did.  The trade makes that incontravertable.  But his organization benefitted because he did so.

What matters more?  The fact that Brown's laughable "man of principle" stance was shown to be phony?  Or that the Bengals ended up lucking into the perfect situation, getting more for Palmer than they could have during the offseason.  

If I'm a Bengals fan, I accept that my owner isn't the man of principle he professed to be, and thank him for being more smart than stubborn.

Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:33 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

No matter the outcome, the ultimate winner has to be Carson Palmer. He benched himself to play elsewhere leaving millions on the table. He wanted a trade and wanted to play this year but for someone else. The spectacle between Palmer and Brown was laughable, although neither backed down and held their ground. For now Brown looks like a hero, Jackson will be a hero if the Raiders are successful and everyone may win big after its all said and done. But whatever the outcome, Carson Palmer got what he wanted.

YOU DA MAN PALMA!!!!!!!!!!

................. but my money is on Bengals lead by Andy Dalton "The Red Rifle".

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:25 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Im guessing Davis reached out to Brown
From beyond the grave?  Cool, what with Halloween coming and all. 

Of course the Raiders approached the Bengals, and Brown folded on his "never trade him position" like a house of cards - an intelligent move instead of a stubborn one for a change.

[Brown] has never granted a player's wish for a trade or a release. 

He just did.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:42 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Palmer had no training camp & hasn't played a down of football since last year.Does anyone really think he's going to march into Oakland & play qb at a high level?He'll be 32 in December & he's going to find out the hard way, you don't just take time off & then expect to play with the big boys.The Raiders could have done better & they will know that by the end of the season.

Since: May 25, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:27 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Carson Palmer was only a mediocre QB at best during his prime with the Bengals. He never lived up to the hype they put on him. To pay this guy the kind of money the Raiders will have to pay him is obscene. The Bengals made out on this deal. They are a rebuilding team and their high draft picks can only help them.

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:26 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Can we stop saying this is for 2 first round picks? It's for one first round pick. The second one happens only if the Raiders make the AFC Championship Game with Palmer at the helm. If that happens, the trade was worth it for the Raiders.

Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:22 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Palmer just didn't have it anymore after hurting his knee a few years ago. I know the Bengals team of eccentrics was not a good fit for him, but he was badly underperforming and hurting the team anyway. I'm personally glad to see him go - and I'm sure he'll be much happier back on the west coast. Don't look for the Raiders to reap any great benefits from this trade.

Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:11 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

This is a suicidal move by the Raiders. The Bengals get a great deal, because basically, Carson Palmer was doing nothing and they get at least one first round pick in 2012 and possibly another in 2013. Now that the suicidal word has sunken in, maybe it was the only hope the Raiders have of winning this year...with Jason Campbell gone, and Bruce Gradkowski banged up, that left the Raiders with Kyle Boller and Terrelle Pryor. I'm guessing Pryor won't be ready for a couple of years.

Also, the Bengals have Andy Dalton pretty much entrenched as their future starter, so, for them, it was a no brainer. If it works out for the Raiders, maybe it's a no brainer for them too. However, Palmer's performance in recent years have been less than stellar. Perhaps Hue Jackson thikns he can resurrect Palmer's career...perhaps so, but I would bet against it. I do wish Palmer well, the guy who said he'd retire rather than play for the Bengals.

Mike Brown got an offer he couldn't refuse and in years to come, if the Bengals handle their draft properly, they will be a force in the AFC North to beat the likes of the Steelers and Ravens. It's an interesting move all around, but mostly favors the Bengals.

Since: Jun 27, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:07 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

No matter what anyone thinks, this is Raiders Football...remeber Jim Plunkett?..Somehow, Someway, Al is still making things happen even from beyond..Greast move for the Silver and Black to fill a void that should take them back to the top where they belong!

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