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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.'s Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.

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Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:13 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Great trade for the Bengals.  Bengals were getting nothing for Palmer and end up with a first round selection and a 2nd first rounder if the Raiders can win a playoff game which is very possible with a great rushing attack.  Great move by the Raiders, it's win now they have the team that needs to grow together and remember the team is led by a first year head coach so he is already exceeding expectations and should improve.

Since: Aug 28, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:09 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Palmer has a better chance to take the Raiders deeper in the playoffs than Campbell did.  Not sure about the draft picks.  But its a win now mentality and with them being competitve this year i see this a win win for both sides.  

Since: May 27, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:09 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I think this is a terrible trade for Oakland! A first round pick and the possibility of another? For Carson Palmer? Are you kidding me?
When whas the las time he threw a good pass? Not since his elbow injury thats for sure. Not only do you lose two early picks, you lose years that a qb drafted early could be developing with his young team mates. Applying a veteran bandage like this is how you limp along and miss your window. By the time you realize that you need a young QB the rest of your team needs retooling too (see Minesota Vikings).  Had The raiders picked Palmer up on the cheap I would think it was a great move, but the price they payed was WAY too much.

Since: Jun 7, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:08 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Great pick up! 

Since: Apr 13, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:08 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

theres no way you oakland fans can possibly defend this trade, brandon lloyd who had a breakout season just got dealt for a 5th round pick at best. And you give two first round picks for palmer? Way to set your franchise back a few years. I dont even think Al Davis wouldve done that, and for all the people crossing there fingers that he regains his career in oakland are dilusional, You think you have wideouts that were better than ochocinco and Terrell Owens? I dont care if they were two loud mouth receivers, palmer only has 1 good game every 5 bad games. Now dont get me wrong, Heyward-bay actually looks to be showing his top 10 potential and maybe Palmer does return to greatness, YOU NEVER KNOW! but from what the candy bar wrapper tells me is that this treat is going to taste like shit!

Since: Oct 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:07 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

The move had to be made. This is the first time the Raiders have been a contender since 2002. 

Gave up a lot but we they are getting comp. picks for Gallery, Miller, and Asomugha.

I like the move. 

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:06 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

ikoguy, it's pretty obvious you're looking at this through fan goggles.

1) Raiders System - you claim all the QB has to do is "just hand off to DMC and make the basic throws".  Then why would they need Carson Palmer?  Obviously, you've oversimplified the QB's role to make the deal sound better, but it doesn't make any sense.

2) Draft busts - so, because with different people in charge of drafting, you drafted poorly at the QB position, you should just dump the most valuable commodity in the NFL (first round draft picks)?  Makes no sense.

3) Long term solution - Terrelle Pryor.  Hard to do anything but laugh at that suggestion. 

4) Money - Raiders have NO cap room.  This is a fallacy.  Teams dramatically reduce their payroll every offseason by cutting veterans who are on their last legs or renegotiating their contracts.  It's silly to think that this somehow helps them when they now absorb Palmer's contract, which is more than they would have paid the two first round picks.

You don't have to be a Raider hater to see the negatives in this trade, but you have to be a pretty big Raider fan to see it as a positive beyond the one aspect of covering for the injured Campbell (at the cost of two high draft picks).

Funny, Raiders fans have screamed for years that Al Davis was running the team into the ground.  Now they make an extremely questionable trade and have no one to blame.

Since: Sep 5, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:06 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Good-bye Prima Donna!   He's your trouble now Oakland, too bad.  You were just starting to get better.

Cincy isn't going to miss Carson Palmer.  Andy Dalton is proving there was alot in Cincinatti to stick around for.   

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:05 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

So, do I drop Kolb and claim Palmer as my second QB if Freeman is an option?

Since: Nov 10, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:03 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

What about AJ Green is he a bust too? take a look at the Bengals last few draft picks... they're not bad and defiantely not busts....

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