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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:59 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Thats great for the Bengals.  With 2 first round picks in this years draft and the possibility of 2 first round picks in 2013, the Benglas have a chance at landing 2 possible special teams players an average linebacker, and a RB bust.  Thats about the track record for Mike Brown.  It looks like that actually hit on QB with Andy Dalton this year.  Shocking to say the least, but hey even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.



Since: Aug 12, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:59 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Great move by the RAIDERS, everything else is there. The defense is OK, and the speed at recievers will get a boost from a real pocket passer. I know he hasn't played yet, but he should be ready when they insert him in the lineup. Playing at home will be a boost for his ego with family and friends there every week. The 1st round pick who cares we're gonna recieve enough picks from the guys who left last year. RAIDERS!



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Palmer is a hell of QB.  He was depressed and his line sucked in Cinncinatti.  I expect big things.  Great move Raiders.  You think I'm crazy?  Just watch.  All you Monday morning QBs will stfu.  by the way,  I am a big blue fan



Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Seems like a lot to give up for a QB who has had recurring injury problems and who may not be the most competitive guy around. But, it he can somehow be the player he was before the injuries, then even two 1's may ultimately be reasonable. Some bif "ifs" on the Raiders side of this trade. Cincy has more of a sure thing. Advantage Cincy at this point. BTW, wonder what Terrelle Pryor is thinking this morning?  



Since: Feb 29, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Dude is nothing much but better than the options Oakland had. Throws a lot of picks also



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:56 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

If oakland makes the playoffs and win the first game the trade is a win .... If they dont make the playoffs the management looks like idiots....



Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:51 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Palmer only had to manage games in Cincinnati, they had a good run game with Benson, good wide-outs with Housh, Chad Johnson and Chris Henry. And a solid defense. Palmer was the problem with the int's and terrible throws



Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:47 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Wow, you can really see the difference in the posters here. The posters here that are true football fans see the trade as it is, a move the Raiders had to make to be and remain a viable contender this year. Then you have all the homers, the ones that really have no clue about football that just make homer comments that mean next to nothing and really a waste of time to post or read. 
When you look at the make up of the Oakland Palmer really fits well here, he will not be called upon to be "the team" as he was in Cinci because he has a real team around him, something he really never had in Cinci.  



Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:45 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

As a Ravens fan - I hate to say it but the Bengals played this perfectly.   Usually Brown is an idiot and we here in Baltimore hope that this move isn't a sign of better things for the Bengals.   For the moment though - great move.



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:43 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I haven't read all the prior posts, but how does the author of the article figure that Brown "absolutely crush[ed] this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback," etc. ?
In fact, Brown obviously did knuckle under, and it appears that it was Palmer who got what he wanted, which was to be traded.  And who knows?  If Brown had traded him earlier in the season, or before the season, he might have gotten more for him. 
Now, that doesn't mean Brown was wrong in initially sticking to his guns--can't let these players walk all over you, right?--but if he was going to give in, he might as well have done it sooner.
And, by the way, don't count on that 2013 pick being a first-rounder.  Why is anyone assuming that the Raiders are going to win at least one playoff game either this year or next?  And if it's not a first-rounder, I don't think the article said what it would be.


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