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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.'s Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.

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Since: May 20, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:39 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

2010 Bengals vs Chargers Recap: Coming off their win over the Browns the Bengals played on home ground for an AFC duel with the Chargers. In the first quarter the Bengals took the lead with QB throwing a 3-yard TD pass to TE . Then Palmer found WR on a 10-yard TD pass (PAT failed, wide left). The Chargers got on the board with kicker hitting a 20-yard field goal, followed by RB getting a 23-yard TD run, but the Bengals put more points up with Palmer getting a 3-yard TD pass to WR . The lead was narrowed with Kaeding making a 28-yard field goal, but the Bengals increased their lead after Palmer connected to Simpson on a 59-yard TD pass, followed by RB getting a 10-yard TD run. The Chargers tried to come back after QB made a 5-yard TD pass to WR , but the Bengals defense prevented any more scoring chances, giving themselves the win.

Their 2010 season sucked but their 2009 season finished something like 10-6. What was the main difference? Protection from the line. Palmer isn't a bad catch for Oakland. You can't blame the QB for a piss poor offensive line and a young defense.

Since: Sep 14, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:38 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I think the trade demonstrates Mike Brown's patience in dealing with Palmer has paid off, "not Mike Brown's on vacation". Mike believes a man's word is his bond, and a signed contract is a contract to be honored by all parties. I respect Mike Brown for this and I can only hope our country gets back to these ideals of principal. I am a proud Bengals' season ticket holder and to Mike a big WHO DEY!!

Since: May 20, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:33 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Could it be remotely possible that Palmer was an underachiever in Cincy because his line sucked, he had to contend with two megalomaniacal recievers and he wasn't coached to his potential there? How many times have we seen a QB who was lackluster in one system, go on to greatness in another? How about Plunkett? How about Gannon? If anyone can resurect Palmers talent, Oakland can. Don't count us out just yet folks.

Since: Sep 16, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:32 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Possibly 2 first round picks for a 32 year old qb coming out of retirement.  The legacy of lunacy continues.

Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:31 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Cincy needs all the picks they can get just to compete within their own division.

Since: Sep 28, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:30 pm
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Since: Aug 30, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:25 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

This is desperation at its finest.  Carson Palmer hasn't lived up to his potential when he was a first round pick and now he garners 1 first rounder and perhaps another for the Bengals.  Usually it is Cincinnati making a bad deal or a bad pick-up or a bad trade.  Now they get to trade a retired quarterback and truly strengthen their team in the future.  You sure Mike Brown isn't on vacation?

Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:25 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

The fact that the Bengals are playing this well without Palmer and got 2 first round picks on top of what they already have is a huge huge move. The only way this is a bad deal is if the Bengals draft a couple of stiffs. Brown has his team moving in the right direction and has a ton of young talent with good heads on their shoulders. These picks are money in the bank, they can either draft players or use them as trade value for a great veteran. I love the move and can only see good things down the road for Cincy, all Bengals fans should be dancing in the streets the future looks bright.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:20 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I gotta admit, I'm a bit surprised a team gave up a 1 first rounder mid-season...much less potentially two of them.  If Palmer plays well for the next few years and the Raiders make the playoffs a few times, then I guess the deal works out fine.  If Palmer is adequate but not really a difference maker for a team that is annually on the playoff bubble, then it probably isn't a very good move.  I'll just wait and see, but I suspect that Palmer is more adequate than good at this point in his career.

Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:20 pm

What is it with you people and 1st rounders

1st rounders doesn't guarantee a thing. This isn't EA Sport's John Madden football. The Panthers have a first round QB right now. What are their chances of going to the Super Bowl this year? How about next year? How about the year after that? They're exciting to watch but get real. If you really want to get technical, Drew Bledsoe was a first rounder. Tom Brady was a 7th. Who woud you rather have? We got 1st rounders. And they're producing. 1st rounders don't always stay with the team who drafts them. You should already know that. You people bringing up that crap are hating. I bet the Vikings would love to make this trade. Denver, Miami, New York Jets, and half the other teams in the NFL. Stop acting like we're talking about the Raiders' 401K.

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