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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:19 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Well this is a huge win for the Bengals. It is off the charts in holding in to talent that wants to fly the coop. Getting 2 1st round picks for a "retired" player is the kind of deal any team will be smiling about for years.

The Raiders did get what they saw as the best QB on the market. That is not saying a lot when you look at what players were free agents or being offered by their teams. Orton did not have the arm to play "Raider ball" (deep passing) and I am sure that was a huge point the Raiders wanted to add.

But I have not seen much of Palmer the last 2 or 3 years. I don't know if he still can hit the deep passes well.

While I too, question why the price was so high, the job of getting their target was completed.  I sure hope the condition for the second pick falls below a 2nd rounder is they don't win a playoff game.

Of course, if the 2 1st round picks were to be around 18 to 24 then it is possible that it this deal is justified as a reasonable gamble.

But that is the gamble. Like watching a poker player bet everything on 2 pair.

Guess everyone should be clear that the Raiders are "all in" for this team to win now.

I can respect (and I guess like) staying true to "Just win, baby" attitude even if I don't like what the Raiders gave up.





Since: Nov 30, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:16 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Egomaniac??? Palmer is anything but. He was forced to deal with WRs that ARE egomaniacs, while he was the scapegoat and took most of the blame. Look at how well they played after Ocho and Owens were out of the lineup. As a Bengals fan, I didn't blame Carson one bit. Mike Brown is a cheap, stubborn moron and the organization is a train wreck. I wish Carson well and would love to see him get the Raiders over the hump. Good luck Oakland!



Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:14 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Speaking as a Bengals fan I am just glad he is gone. I don't care where he goes or what he does. I do feel sorry for whatever team picks him up, because since his injury he hasn't done one thing that is promising and would make you want him as a number#1 Quarterback for your team. Good luck Raiders and good riddance Palmer!



Since: Sep 16, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:11 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Perfect place for another egomaniac to end up.  This is going to get good...



Since: Jun 27, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:10 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Wait until Palmer starts throwing interceptions, Raider fans will know what Bengals fans have known all along, he is an INTERCEPTION machine! Palmer is a very average NFL qb. He will give you good throws, and then it will be, why did he throw that? He cannot move AT ALL in the pocket. Watching him get away from a rush is almost comical. Good riddance Average Joe!



Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:09 pm
 

Big_Gip, how dare a VIKING fan talk about smart

Look at the Vikings. One of the best weapons in football and you keep giving the ball to McNabb. Oh McNabb! Now there was a smart move. I'd rather give up 2 1st rounders for Palmer than signing McNabb off free agency. Tell you what. watch the Raiders and learn how to run the damn ball!



Since: Aug 6, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:08 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

The Raiders made this move because they really have a chance at the post season.  The Raiders team looks as good as any in this years mix of teams.  The Raiders are playing with more heart than any other team right now due to the loss of Al Davis.  The addition of Carson Palmer could very well be the final peice to the puzzle.  Carson Palmer is still young enough to carry this team for years to come.  The need for Draft picks in Oakland is minimal, as the team is very young ang getting better.  The high cost of first round draft picks is always a problem, but not anymore. I think it was a great move.



Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:07 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Wow, what kind of knucle head would give up this many 1st rd picks for Palmer. He is a great guy, but go with what you have, they aren't going to be any worst then last year. Palmer has no idea to run the Raiders offense..



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:06 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

if the raiders win the super bowl this year & beyond. this will go down as the best trade steal ever

Anytime you trade 2 first round picks, its hardly a steal.  Especially if the player you're trading for is on the downside of his career.


I may have been one of the few, but I actually agreed with Mike Brown and his stance on Palmer.  Though I did not actually believe he would never trade him, I supported the idea of holding on to him and getting the best value for him rather than just trading him for whatever you could get.  In the end its a great deal for the Bengals.  Here is hoping they make good choices with the draft picks they recieved.



Since: Oct 5, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:04 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Carson may be servicable for a couple years but he was not worth giving up first rounders...not smart Oakland not smart at all...Campbell will be a free agent next season and all you have is Terelle Pryor who you may as well convert to wide reciever that leaves you with not much of nothing to go on...not smart Oakland...it would have been better trading up in the draft depending on how low they would be in the draft than depending on Palmer who has not been in football for a while and has an injury prone history...bad move Oakland Baaaaad move.


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