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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:20 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Calm down haters.  Before you start chiming in on how dumb of a move this is let's look at WHY this really makes sense for Oaktown.  What good is a first round pick for the next two years going to do for the Raiders in the future?  Barring injury (God forbid) our backfield is pretty locked up for then next 7 years with DMC, the receiving corp is young, fast, and talented.  The O-line has just been overhauled and we've used the last 2 drafts to address our O-line needs.  Keep in mind this is the unit that is producing one of the most dominate running games in the NFL and that says a lot considering teams know you are going to run the ball and you do it anyway.  The D-line is a lock for at least 2 seasons and has adequate depth.  Linebacking corp look strong and has depth with Curry being added to the mix.  The only major concerns our roster has in the future is at corner and hopefully Van Dyke can fill that role.  The writing was on the wall with Jason Campbell before the season even started when the Raiders drafted Pryor.  Period.  Bringing in Carson now will give us 3 good years of having a quality QB (can somebody say "Rich Gannon" v.2) with a young team while the QB of the future has time to groom. 

I hope nobody thought Hue Jackson was going to sit by and watch Boller throw the ball all over the stadium until Christmas and hope JC can come back and salvage the season.  I like this move.  Why wait and roll the dice when you can make a move that doesn't hurt you but can only help you?  Most people have said the Raiders are mortgaging their future to win now.  Well as a diehard who has watched my team find new was to lose games over the last 10 years I'll take some winning for a change.  There are no garauntees in the NFL and no locks that you are going to draft some superman to save your franchise.  Some teams build a new muscle car (Lions) and some teams pick up an engine from one classic, frame from another, wheels from Kragen, Rims from Firestone, and piece the car together from 20 different cars, then throw a coat of paint on that bad boy and call it new.  They call it Skrapin' around here. 



Since: Feb 14, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:17 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

LOL..what does anybody's race mean?  Come on clown...Civil War is over...you lost!  Idiot.



Since: May 4, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:16 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

A couple items have been overlooked here and need to be addressed. The Raiders are already one of the youngest teams in the league, and are ready to hit there stride, if they haven't already. Not to diminish 1st round picks, but I would always rather keep my proven or improving talent than hope for something on a draft pick. Other than Seymour and Kelly, our entire team is very young. 

Other issue that needs to be addressed. We have sucked since 2003. I and many members of the RaiderNation are tired of waiting and hoping. WIN NOW BABY! Carson can be that man. He has only 8 years of experience. There is plenty of juice left. When JC went down Sunday, I thought for sure this season was lost, but this brings hope back to the Nation. He will connect with our receivers where Campbell missed on regular occasion. This guy is worth two high draft picks. Value is in the eye of the beholder.



Since: Aug 7, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:12 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I'd take him over any black Qb in the NFL



Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:11 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Finally! The last of the cry babies gone! There is a NEW vision for this team and EVERY player here has bought in! This is the concoction that teams on the rise to build a dynasty use, but it is hard to find in the NFL. What makes the Packers unbeatable is the same concoction of EVERYONE buying in.  



Since: Jul 31, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:09 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Interesting analogy ikoguy.  It all depends on Palmer of course, but he is an experienced QB and only looked washed up because of the system or the team chemistry/atmosphere of the Bengals.  Otherwise, the Raiders overpaid massively.  The idea of 1st round picks being too pricey suggests Raider mgmt. are doing a poor job of managing the cap.  In theory, your 1st rounders should make up the core of your team for years if it's done right.



Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:08 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Carson Palmer is a decent quarterback, I would not place him in the top 15 in the NFL.  The Bengals definitely come out good on this. They have their man in Andy Dalton and gain a first rounder, 2 if Carson takes the Raiders to the playoffs.  Cincy better be rooting for them to make the playoffs. Mike Brown did the right thing, even though Carson got what he wanted.  If Andy Dalton had been a bust, this whole situation looks different.



Since: Jul 15, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:05 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Bengals Win!! Unreal. I'd been begging for Brown to deal him for a 3rd rounder since the draft.  Shows why he's the GM and I'm not. hahahah



Since: Sep 30, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:00 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Al davis isnt even cold yet and the Radiers get fleeced !!!!!!!



Since: Aug 17, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:00 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Where did this 1st round pick come from?  All i heard the last few days is that the raiders could only offer their first pick in 2012 which everybody said was a 5th round pick...Did the Raiders always have this 1st round pick available and everybody was reporting wrong?


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